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seat upholstery
#1415942 Mon Jul 05 2021 12:54 PM
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what have you guys used for your front seat reupholstery ? i dont wanna spend a fortune but just want something decent and not to complicated to install thanks

Last edited by mikeg103; Mon Jul 05 2021 12:54 PM.
Re: seat upholstery
mikeg103 #1415952 Mon Jul 05 2021 03:07 PM
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Mike, I used standard upholstery from Jim Carter.

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Wayne

When I die, I hope she doesn't sell everything for what I told her I paid for it!

1938 1-Ton Farm Truck
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mikeg103 #1415978 Mon Jul 05 2021 06:10 PM
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I have my seats done at my interior guy
He charges 2-3 hundred, he does it in a
Role and plete in nice cloth material

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mikeg103 #1416080 Tue Jul 06 2021 02:58 PM
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I also used jim carters material because from all my searches he had the very best match to original maroon material in my 49 gmc. My seat still had some original pieces intact in the channel around the seat and I will say his material was basically spot on. I was very very happy with the fit and quality of everything from JC. I bought the batting material from them also. Its not a “fun” job but I did it in probably half a Saturday.

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mikeg103 #1416092 Tue Jul 06 2021 05:02 PM
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How many seat return springs are on the bottom of the seat frame ? is there just one or is 2 required and if one which side does it go on ? thanks for the help

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mikeg103 #1416094 Tue Jul 06 2021 05:26 PM
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It's best to take it to a pro. The pro will make sure that the springs are in good shape and replace any dodgy ones and properly tie them in. Ask around at local car meets to find a good pro.


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Re: seat upholstery
mikeg103 #1416113 Tue Jul 06 2021 08:36 PM
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the springs are fine , im refering to the slide springs on the seat frame when i took the seat frame out i only found the one spring , not sure if another is needed or which side it goes on , thanks

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mikeg103 #1416122 Tue Jul 06 2021 09:35 PM
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The shop manual refers to two springs, one on each side. If you only put one on, the runners will tend to bind up.

If you only have one spring, you should be able to find a matching one at a decent hardware store. If you don't have one, maybe a helpful 'bolter will help out with some measurements. (Hint, Hint. I need those as well.)


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Re: seat upholstery
Gord&Fran #1416131 Tue Jul 06 2021 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord&Fran
It's best to take it to a pro. The pro will make sure that the springs are in good shape and replace any dodgy ones and properly tie them in. Ask around at local car meets to find a good pro.

Im a big fan of doin everything myself for free. I had 1 broken spring. I welded it back together and transferred it from the drivers side bottom to the center of the seat back where it will least likely be abused. Wasnt really that bad of a job to do on a set of saw horses with a piece of plywood. Seat feels perfect. No need to sub out everything especially something as easy as a old flat bench seat.

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klhansen #1416133 Tue Jul 06 2021 10:05 PM
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I agree with that barnfind most of the parts im ordering are expensive enough , im trying to feel my way through this partial restoration and do as much of the work myself as possible . I am mechanically inclined but by no means am i a mechanic

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klhansen #1416135 Tue Jul 06 2021 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by klhansen
The shop manual refers to two springs, one on each side. If you only put one on, the runners will tend to bind up.

If you only have one spring, you should be able to find a matching one at a decent hardware store. If you don't have one, maybe a helpful 'bolter will help out with some measurements. (Hint, Hint. I need those as well.)
the end to end measure is approx 12 inches , i tried home depot last night and you know how that goes , will have to try a few mom and pop stores i seem to have better luck there sometimes . Auto parts stores are a joke if they cant punch in a number they cant help either

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mikeg103 #1416139 Tue Jul 06 2021 10:33 PM
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I have found a good selection of springs at my local Ace Hardware. Not the newest one close but the one downtown that has been around for 50 years.


Wayne

When I die, I hope she doesn't sell everything for what I told her I paid for it!

1938 1-Ton Farm Truck
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mikeg103 #1416144 Tue Jul 06 2021 10:43 PM
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thanks theres one not to far from me ill give it a try

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mikeg103 #1416166 Wed Jul 07 2021 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeg103
I agree with that barnfind most of the parts im ordering are expensive enough , im trying to feel my way through this partial restoration and do as much of the work myself as possible . I am mechanically inclined but by no means am i a mechanic
None of the interior work is “hard” but just more or less time consuming. Hardest part of my seat was rebuilding the lower corner that had rust issue. I patched it up and it worked out fine. The painting of the entire inside cab was my least favorite but it came out great and I was happy to have it done. The absolute hardest part for me was committing to take the truck all apart when it was fully functional running and driving around with AC. I hated having it out of service since I drive it on almost a daily or at least weekly basis. I normally drive it everywhere as soon as im out of work friday.

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mikeg103 #1416176 Wed Jul 07 2021 01:53 AM
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im in the same boat however mine is a step above a barnfind it runs and drives but needs it all . My worst part so far has been cleaning the areas where mice have set up shop and had a party , man does their mess stink !!

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mikeg103 #1416195 Wed Jul 07 2021 04:51 AM
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Seat springs and the associated parts need to be spring steel otherwise they will just bend and not bounce back. I found a old spring mattress has everything you need to rebuild a seat.

Mike


1940 Chevy 1/2 Ton presently in pieces...
1940 Chevy Business Coupe
Re: seat upholstery
Barnfind49 #1416241 Wed Jul 07 2021 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Barnfind49
quote=Gord&Fran It's best to take it to a pro. The pro will make sure that the springs are in good shape and replace any dodgy ones and properly tie them in. Ask around at local car meets to find a good pro./quote

Im a big fan of doin everything myself for free. I had 1 broken spring. I welded it back together and transferred it from the drivers side bottom to the center of the seat back where it will least likely be abused. Wasnt really that bad of a job to do on a set of saw horses with a piece of plywood. Seat feels perfect. No need to sub out everything especially something as easy as a old flat bench seat.

I did not suggest "sub out everything".


Gord
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Re: seat upholstery
mikeg103 #1417550 Tue Jul 20 2021 09:36 PM
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MikeG103 On my 51 3600 wood hauler we sew-up coversout of a waxy canvas material,then I make a headliner out of cardboard plenty good for the woods !!

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Rabaut #1417551 Tue Jul 20 2021 09:43 PM
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Rabaut Found out the upholstry shops have springs in a little bundle wrapped in burlap just hog ring em in there not rocket science.

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fixite7 #1417596 Wed Jul 21 2021 07:35 AM
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not refering to seat springs , im talking about the 2 springs that help pull the seat slider on its track .

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mikeg103 #1417704 Thu Jul 22 2021 04:01 AM
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Post a picture of the spring and where it goes…..

Mike


1940 Chevy 1/2 Ton presently in pieces...
1940 Chevy Business Coupe
Re: seat upholstery
mikeg103 #1419187 Mon Aug 02 2021 11:09 PM
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Mikeg103 I go to the fabrick store buy a canvas type material that is kinda stiff,my wife can sew that so the joint wants to be L shaped,use your old cover for a pattern,on a 51 3100 that cloth is held with clips that don't hurt it like hog rings. Change out weak springs,pad with new foam tied in place so it wont move. on beaters if it wears thru you can turn it inside out and go some more,like on a wood hauler. Make you some cardboard patterns of seat top and back to work off of they are easily changed !!

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mikeg103 #1419189 Mon Aug 02 2021 11:14 PM
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mikeg103 posted for you,hope you see it

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fixite7 #1419204 Tue Aug 03 2021 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fixite7
mikeg103 posted for you,hope you see it
i see your post but no picture

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mikeg103 #1419325 Wed Aug 04 2021 12:03 AM
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I used the covers and backing material from Jim Carter. The quality of the products was very good. I had read in other posts that some people put down carpeting instead of the batting. I had the batting from the kit and wanted to use it. I also liked the idea of separating the springs from my backside. I ended up getting a very thin, vinyl backed carpet runner from Home Depot. Combining the batting and the very thin runner worked well.

In the attached pics, you can see a comparison between the original "V" shaped clip and the replacement weird shaped clips. By wrapping the cover around the frame and tucking it into the groove in the frame, you can replicate how GM did it. I'm including a pic that shows the frame sitting on a piece of gray carpet. In the pic, you can see the cover wrapped around the frame and a spring clip holding it in place to the left. Additionally, you can see the bends in the fabric where the permanent clips were installed into the frame, holding the fabric cover in place. The third pic shows a close up of the clip, in place.

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Mike

1953 3100
1994 Chevy 1500 (Donated to charity 2016)
2002 Chevy S10 ZR2

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Gray_Ghost #1419373 Wed Aug 04 2021 10:29 AM
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thanks gray ghost , a lot of people have used jim carter so i might be going that way what color is that you used ?

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mikeg103 #1419391 Wed Aug 04 2021 01:58 PM
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My truck is a 1953 3100, so I chose from that group of seat covers. I know it is the spanish grain version and think it is the brown color, although it may be the maroon. I honestly don't remember. It looks more brown in the attached pic.... If you have a remnant of the original fabric, I'd use that for color choice. I found a ton of the original fabric embedded in the channel that the clips fit in. In fact, it was very tedious getting it all out so that I could reupholster the seat! The second pic shows the frame with the replacement batting and burlap sitting in place, but not attached and also shows the groove and original fabric remnants.

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Mike

1953 3100
1994 Chevy 1500 (Donated to charity 2016)
2002 Chevy S10 ZR2

My Restoration Adventure Blog [grayghost53.blogspot.com]
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mikeg103 #1419398 Wed Aug 04 2021 02:27 PM
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This is JC’s spanish grain maroon. It matches the original 1949 cover like 98% perfect in my truck. I was very happy with it.

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mikeg103 #1420120 Tue Aug 10 2021 07:10 PM
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Did you ever find the track springs??

Rabaut


1940 Chevy 1/2 Ton presently in pieces...
1940 Chevy Business Coupe
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mikeg103 #1422199 Sat Aug 28 2021 09:45 PM
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mike 103 I go get kinda stiff canvas material ,my wife sews up covers I put in strategic springs pad it clip em on there,head for the woods. That is on a beater !! Also make a cardboard headliner,about every 5 years

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mikeg103 #1422200 Sat Aug 28 2021 09:54 PM
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Mike 103 I haven't been able to do pictures yet,have learned to do those seats up fairly cheap you can get new generic springs at your upholestry shop just put in where you need them.

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mikeg103 #1422212 Sat Aug 28 2021 11:55 PM
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thanks guys i got it done by a local guy he did a beautiful job , stripped it all down painted the frames and put pleats in it added extra foam , they are more comfortable than my wifes new car !

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Rabaut #1422213 Sat Aug 28 2021 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabaut
Did you ever find the track springs??

Rabaut
no never did at this point i dont think ill need them the seats gonna stay all the way back anyway

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fixite7 #1422214 Sat Aug 28 2021 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabaut
Did you ever find the track springs??

Rabaut
no never did at this point i dont think ill need them the seats gonna stay all the way back anyway
Originally Posted by fixite7
mike 103 I go get kinda stiff canvas material ,my wife sews up covers I put in strategic springs pad it clip em on there,head for the woods. That is on a beater !! Also make a cardboard headliner,about every 5 years
thanks for the help !

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Originally Posted by Gray_Ghost
In the pic, you can see the cover wrapped around the frame and a spring clip holding it in place to the left. Additionally, you can see the bends in the fabric where the permanent clips were installed into the frame, holding the fabric cover in place. The third pic shows a close up of the clip, in place.

How did you snap those clips (the ones that kinda look like an omega shape) on to the upholstery material? They are much too small to snap in with fingers and pliers will ruin the material.


54 Chevy 3100 Deluxe 3 speed on column. Keeping original as possible but changed to 12 volt system.
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JoeDude #1437021 Wed Jan 12 2022 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeDude
How did you snap those clips (the ones that kinda look like an omega shape) on to the upholstery material? They are much too small to snap in with fingers and pliers will ruin the material.
The pliers should contact the metal frame behind the fabric and the clip. I haven't done that job yet, but am thinking about getting a cheap pair of pliers without sharp teeth and modifying them to hold the clip (maybe a semi-circular groove). Or maybe a pad on one side of the pliers so the material isn't damaged.


Kevin
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
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JoeDude #1437025 Wed Jan 12 2022 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeDude
How did you snap those clips (the ones that kinda look like an omega shape) on to the upholstery material? They are much too small to snap in with fingers and pliers will ruin the material.

We used to have a special set of pliers with rubber coated jaws for clips like that. For as few clips as there are on a single seat, you could probably get away with wrapping the jaws of your pliers in 5-6 layers of electrical tape to protect the fabric. Or if you wanted to be really fancy, grind the teeth smooth and dip it in that rubber stuff for making new handles on tools.


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mikeg103 #1437496 Sun Jan 16 2022 02:42 PM
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Mikeg103 I use heavy canvas from JoAnn fabrics,wife sews it so edge joints want to be an ell,then replace coils as needed, fix-up new padding. A beauty of AD trucks is you can take your covers on and off,adjust padding, on my beaters have even turned the cover inside out to wear-out the OK passenger side before changing it to fresh covers !!

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JoeDude #1437497 Sun Jan 16 2022 02:50 PM
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Joe Dude Maybe your material is kinda thick,I think I took a short wooden stick to bump those on, Old ones will break when you take them off. Uphostery shop got me a box of those clips (25 yrs. ago) same thing. That canvas I mentioned above worked OK with those clips.

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mikeg103 #1437540 Sun Jan 16 2022 09:43 PM
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I've used binder clips instead of the "proper" clips. They work great and allow adjustment after installation Just remove the "handles" after installation.

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Just Very Confused #1437662 Mon Jan 17 2022 08:15 PM
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JVC,

How are you going to get your truck in the garage when you put the front clip back on? It barely fits now!

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mikeg103 #1437672 Mon Jan 17 2022 10:47 PM
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Guess I'll have to shorten the bed!


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mikeg103 #1440391 Mon Feb 07 2022 11:27 PM
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mikeg103 You can make your own from any fabric store,use canvas that is kinda stiff .

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mikeg103 #1443608 Sun Mar 06 2022 01:45 PM
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Mikeg103 You can make your own seat covers,use heavy kinda stiff canvas from your local fabric store. Use your old covers for a pattern.

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