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V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
#1413048 Tue Jun 08 2021 01:16 AM
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Found a small jar of motivation and started putting the little V8 Fun car back together. Made it to the exhaust system. In the past I've either welded all connections or used clamps. This time the plan is to not weld all joints but leave two sections (either side of the T5 transmission) unwelded and clamped in case the transmission needs to come out. Just unbolt and go.

Anyone have a strong opinion on V Band vs Band Clamps? I've never had a problem with good stainless band clamps, but it does look like stainless V Bands with the welded male/female flanges would make for a superior seal.

Not a huge factor but a first look shows V Bands being about twice the price. Making total cost about $100.00 vs $50.00 for 4 clamps.

RonR


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Re: V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
moparguy #1413080 Tue Jun 08 2021 12:09 PM
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What about just using regular muffler clamps?
I used those a lot way back when and they worked fine.

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Re: V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
moparguy #1413092 Tue Jun 08 2021 01:28 PM
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The TV “Mechanic” shows seem to favor the V-Band clamps. They are said to seal better. I have zero personal experience with them.


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Re: V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
2-Ton #1413113 Tue Jun 08 2021 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 2-Ton
What about just using regular muffler clamps?
I used those a lot way back when and they worked fine.

Don

Don, agree on U-bolt style clamps working for their designed job. That being clamping slip fit pipe. My application involves butt fit sections. I could just weld it all, throw a few full circle clamps in the trouble bag and then If I ever need to drop the tranny, cut the pipe and then clamp it back together. After an evenings pondering, I'm actually kinda liking that approach.

RonR


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
1951 Farmall Super A



Re: V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
moparguy #1413149 Tue Jun 08 2021 06:11 PM
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There are steel V clamps that are a bit cheaper than the stainless versions.

Re: V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
MNSmith #1413196 Tue Jun 08 2021 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MNSmith
There are steel V clamps that are a bit cheaper than the stainless versions.
But then the issue becomes getting them off without resorting to a sawzall. The stainless V-clamps on the turbo on my truck are enough trouble to remove.

The bigger question is how many times do you expect to have to remove the tranny?


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Re: V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
moparguy #1413236 Wed Jun 09 2021 02:28 AM
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My deal is a Model A Roadster with a blown V6. I'm going to be doing a lot of engine removal and install before the first fire. And I can't leave the headers behind. It'll be a fair weather car, so the V bands will work well in my situation. Otherwise, the Burb got flanges at the headers and everything else was welded up.

Re: V Band Clamps or Band Clamps
moparguy #1413249 Wed Jun 09 2021 03:23 AM
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Kevin said; "The bigger question is how many times do you expect to have to remove the tranny?"

On removing the transmission, I'm going with a different transmission that has a more favorable gear set. I pulled the top and all looked fine and end play on the mainshaft was good. But it's a untested unit so who knows if/when it may need to come out.

I do tend to both over think things and obsess over details at times. Now being one of those times I guess. That said, believe it or not a V8 in a Miata causes exhaust systems to be a bit tight so making a effort to get it right first go. The old system was pretty hacked and patched up, hence the extra thought and effort this go around.

RonR


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