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Title question 1954 3100
#1411400 Wed May 26 2021 12:50 PM
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What is one supposed to do if you have original title but serial number is long lost.

Last edited by Justhorsenround; Wed May 26 2021 05:07 PM. Reason: Added year/Model
Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411401 Wed May 26 2021 12:56 PM
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What year? Task Force and later trucks have the serial number stamped on the frame.

FYI: Different states have their own laws regarding vehicle titles. You may have to contact your local DMV.

John


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Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411402 Wed May 26 2021 12:58 PM
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Your State has a legal process for dealing with such situations. Contact your State vehicle registration authority for guidance. Stamping new numbers or swapping number plates unless done at the States direction is illegal and Stovebolt.com does not support illegal practices.


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Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411403 Wed May 26 2021 12:59 PM
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Talk to your local DMV. I had to have a new number assigned to my '37, very much like a new trailer build. The highway patrol verified no stollen parts, then the DMV assigned the number. It was a pain, but the only way Missouri would let me move forward. Get it done before dumping a lot money into the project.

Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411413 Wed May 26 2021 02:34 PM
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'Bolter
I encountered the opposite situation when I shipped a vehicle back to the USA from Okinawa. The M-151 Jeep I had purchased surplus and rebuilt while stationed there with the USAF arrived, but the paperwork got lost in transit. California issued a "bonded title"- - - -basically I was required to purchase an insurance policy equal to the appraised value of the vehicle and keep it in force for 3 years before getting a permanent title. As with almost all dealings with a government agency, it was a royal pain in the butt!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411508 Thu May 27 2021 01:35 AM
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Jerry, I'm surprised California even let you register an M-151. It's a second cousin to the "unsafe at any speed" Corvair that Ralph Nader went on about with the independent front and rear suspension. The Army said that you weren't supposed to make any turn over 20 MPH in one of those. The bonded title up here in Alaska won't work for titling a project vehicle. It has to be completely road legal before they'll even consider it. And there's maybe 1 or 2 Appraisers that the State will accept.


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Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411552 Thu May 27 2021 12:59 PM
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The old car council in CO got the state to eliminate the Bonded Title issue for older than 25 years, just need a notarized bill of sale here plus more paperwork.

Ed


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Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411581 Thu May 27 2021 03:18 PM
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The Army issued a memo in the early 70's requiring all maintenance facilities like the one I worked for to cut the "frame" in 4 places on M151's that were deemed unrepairable prior to being sent to disposal. Some got released to the public earlier and some agencies likely didn't get the memo. Most of the ones I see around here are former Marine vehicles. There were not a lot of M151's sold to the public.
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Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411648 Thu May 27 2021 10:30 PM
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'Bolter
The only time I drove 151's, was in Honduras in '86. Handy little vehicles.

-Kevin

Last edited by Shakey61; Thu May 27 2021 10:31 PM.

This is what happens when you live with a house-full of women, the wife and daughters name all the cars:
1960 Impala - "Frankie" (Frank Sinatra)
1961 Apache - " 'Mater Jr." (wrecker)
1972 SuperBeetle Convertible - "Juliet"
1976 SuperBeetle Convertible - "Olaf"
1988 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce - "Romeo"
Re: Title question 1954 3100
flattop49 #1411658 Thu May 27 2021 11:36 PM
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'Bolter
Does anybody believe the bureaucrats in the California DMV had enough intelligence to know what an M-151 was? The instability in turns problem was easy to fix- - - -I put some 14" wheels from a 57 Chrysler Imperial on it that lowered the center of gravity a little and widened the track width by 4 inches, and extended the fenders to cover the tires. It handled great after that!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
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