The Stovebolt.com Forums Home | FAQ | Forum | Swap Meet | Gallery | Tech Tips | Events | Features | Search | Hoo-Ya Shop
Big Thanks!

Big THANKS to

MONGO
for hosting
the weekend event.



Read all about it.


Stovebolt Site Search
'
Oh Lord, I just gotta find it....

A pdf guide to help you search the Site


Old Truck Calendars
Months of truck photos!
Nothing like an old truck calendar

Stovebolt Calendars

Check for details!


Who's Online Now
8 members (Justhorsenround, Greg Brown, Leo, Bill Trotter, kades51, Gray_Ghost), 107 guests, and 3 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums60
Topics124,935
Posts1,008,306
Members45,097
Most Online1,229
Jan 21st, 2020
Image Posting Policy
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
#1411252 Tue May 25 2021 02:34 AM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 737
D
Dusty53 Offline OP
'Bolter
Well, I ordered a complete brake line set from a vendor and low and behold they are not even close. Used their "compatible vehicle " tool and yeah, it showed a match, but no it doesn't. So here's my confusion after doing some research. The Factory Assembly Manual for 1947- 1954 details the brake line part numbers for the 3600 Left Drive in Section 5 , and does not reference different part numbers for the model years. With this in mind, why would the vendors list individual "kits" for the different model years. Does anyone know where the brake line part numbers might be listed other than the Assembly Manual? I didn't find any information on them by using the GM parts Wiki.

Also an interesting find in the shop manual is that 3100 series trucks have 3/16 OD Brake tubes except the cross over from the master cylinder to the junction block on the passenger frame rail which is 1/4 " OD tube. The 3600 and up trucks use only 1/4" OD tube.

Any suggestions ladies and gentlemen?


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
Dusty53 #1411257 Tue May 25 2021 03:18 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,270
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
I'm planning on building my own brake lines. I ordered a 25' roll of 3/16" brake tubing for most and will buy a short section of 1/4" for the master cylinder to division block piece.
Here's some info for you Brake system illustration. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Also this and the following pages. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
Dusty53 #1411339 Tue May 25 2021 06:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,520
J
'Bolter
I've had really good luck purchasing from O'Reilly's pre made lines. The last one I had to purchase was the one on the passenger side (the first of the 2 piece line heading back to the rear). It was something like $8 and it fit/worked fine. Very easy to shape and work, already double flared with new fittings. They have 1/4 inch line as well. These come in different lengths and diameters.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
Dusty53 #1411368 Wed May 26 2021 12:40 AM
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 127
A
ASU Offline
'Bolter
I have found that copper nickel brake line is FAR easier to work with, if you are buying bulk and bending your own. easy to bend form, no corrosion to speak of. You just have to have the skill to flare the ends.

Jon

Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
ASU #1411395 Wed May 26 2021 12:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 2,124
P
AD Addict
Originally Posted by ASU
I have found that copper nickel brake line is FAR easier to work with, if you are buying bulk and bending your own. easy to bend form, no corrosion to speak of. You just have to have the skill to flare the ends.

Jon

I couldn’t agree with you more! I used CU-NI for all of the lines I have replaced so far and it bends beautifully but if you don’t have one of the pro flaring kits, that cost hundreds of dollars, you have to practice your flares. The biggest thing is to keep the flaring tool centered on the anvil. Check it just after contact and before you tighten it down. If its not centered, the flare will be lopsided and will not seal properly. Once I realized my mistake, my flares came out nearly perfect.

Here is the flaring tool I use. It’s an Imperial.

Attached Files
Last edited by Phak1; Wed May 26 2021 12:15 PM.

Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
Project Journals
Stovebolt Gallery

‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
Phak1 #1411482 Wed May 26 2021 10:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,234
M
'Bolter
Originally Posted by Phak1
Here is the flaring tool I use. It’s an Imperial.

I hope you are making double flares and not just single flares (low pressure for plumbing)...you didn't show the adaptor dies.

These double flare tools are cheap and work fine for the hobbyist...just take your time and practice once or twice and you'll be a pro!

https://www.amazon.com/Wostore-Doub...Y2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Mike B smile

Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
Dusty53 #1411484 Wed May 26 2021 11:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 2,124
P
AD Addict
Originally Posted by Mike B
I hope you are making double flares and not just single flares

Definitely double flares. I only showed the style I have (from the internet) not the complete set. My flaring kit is is from the 70’s and I do have the anvils to complete the double flare.

Here is a picture of what my kit looks like.

Attached Files
Last edited by Phak1; Wed May 26 2021 11:20 PM.

Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
Project Journals
Stovebolt Gallery

‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
Dusty53 #1411504 Thu May 27 2021 01:13 AM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 737
D
Dusty53 Offline OP
'Bolter
Thanks everyone. Ron (me) is going to be learning a new skill.


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Brake Lines Anyone? 1954 3604 Chevy Truck
Dusty53 #1411590 Thu May 27 2021 04:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,325
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
These days, I try to stick to 37 degree.

If you do enough brake lines, the hydraulic, or even the long handled machine, is well worth it. Eastwood sells a decently priced version.


Moderated by  SWEET 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Home | FAQ | Forum | Swap Meet | Gallery | Tech Tips | Events | Features | Search | Hoo-Ya Shop
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4