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It's alive....53 3100, 216
#1408297 Sun May 02 2021 03:09 PM
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Got it running, to a refreshing spray of vintage rusty water and the dulcet tones of a wrecked water pump.
Now to change water (and probably fuel) pump.
Brakes are next.


"Life is too short to drive a new vehicle ! !"

1953 3100 3 Window
1939 2dr Master DeLuxe Sedan-Primary Project
1985 K5 Blazer
1948 Ford 8N Tractor-Running Daily

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408302 Sun May 02 2021 05:00 PM
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Congratulations!
I remember my first fire up . Truck was parked since 1971 it fired first try...Love it.
Keep us posted.

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408376 Mon May 03 2021 12:34 AM
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Hard to beat the euphoric feeling from a 216 first startup.

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408388 Mon May 03 2021 01:45 AM
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Not much better than an engine coming to life after 50 years. Wow, congrats!


Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
Project Journals
‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408679 Wed May 05 2021 12:45 AM
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Got the offending pumps off.
Now to find new stuff, scrape muck off the engine, paint bits...
P.O. said it wasn't running very well.
No. 3 and 6 lighting hoses were crossed, both coil wires were dicey, etc...
Now that the waterpump is off there are no strange noises.

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"Life is too short to drive a new vehicle ! !"

1953 3100 3 Window
1939 2dr Master DeLuxe Sedan-Primary Project
1985 K5 Blazer
1948 Ford 8N Tractor-Running Daily

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408682 Wed May 05 2021 01:26 AM
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That is such a great moment. I remember all the sounds, the aroma and the site of it running for the first time. Congratulations!


1951 GMC 1 Ton Flatbed -- It is finally on the road and what a great time I have driving it!
1951 1 Ton Completed


My Chevy Master 4 Door is on the Road!
Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408687 Wed May 05 2021 01:56 AM
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Lets see more pics of the happy truck


Craig's '50 Chevy 3100 5 window
My truck
If I'm not working on my truck or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408694 Wed May 05 2021 03:45 AM
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"the dulcet tones of a wrecked water pump". I like that! smile
My '59 had those when I first got it running. It wouldn't have occurred to me to describe it that way. Wish I had thought of it!


Rich

'47 Loadmaster [stovebolt.com]

1947 Chev. Loadmaster

1959 Chev. Viking 40

Genie: "I am the genie from a magic lamp and I have the power to grant you three wishes."
Me: "I want to be rich."
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Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408710 Wed May 05 2021 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowbar65
No. 3 and 6 lighting hoses were crossed
ohwell Maybe it’s me, but I don’t understand this statement. Can you elaborate?

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Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
Project Journals
‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408720 Wed May 05 2021 02:36 PM
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Phak1

Lighting hoses = sparkplug wires.


Brian
1955.2 3100 Truck


The older I get the more dangerous I am!!!!!
Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408810 Thu May 06 2021 03:33 AM
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That was going to be my guess. Hadn't heard them called that before.


Rich

'47 Loadmaster [stovebolt.com]

1947 Chev. Loadmaster

1959 Chev. Viking 40

Genie: "I am the genie from a magic lamp and I have the power to grant you three wishes."
Me: "I want to be rich."
Genie: "OK, Rich, what's your second wish?"








Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Rich'sToys #1408833 Thu May 06 2021 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich'sToys
That was going to be my guess. Hadn't heard them called that before.
That is what I was thinking too, but I also never heard them called that before.

Thanks Brian, for the education! nanner

Last edited by Phak1; Thu May 06 2021 12:02 PM.

Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
Project Journals
‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1408847 Thu May 06 2021 01:59 PM
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Ha. I might have to use it. Never heard em called that either. Kinda like it. headscratch

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
55shaker #1408867 Thu May 06 2021 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 55 SHAKER
Lighting hoses = sparkplug wires.


^^^This^^^


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Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Phak1 #1408927 Thu May 06 2021 10:56 PM
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Phak1 On those plug wires if you get a chunk of dirt in your main jet you can cross 3 and 4 and it will blow the dirt out so you can get home !

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1409027 Fri May 07 2021 07:43 PM
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De-crudded and pretty.
Waiting on waterpump to arrive.
Which temp thermostat is recommended?

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"Life is too short to drive a new vehicle ! !"

1953 3100 3 Window
1939 2dr Master DeLuxe Sedan-Primary Project
1985 K5 Blazer
1948 Ford 8N Tractor-Running Daily

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1409193 Sun May 09 2021 05:14 PM
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Waiting...

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"Life is too short to drive a new vehicle ! !"

1953 3100 3 Window
1939 2dr Master DeLuxe Sedan-Primary Project
1985 K5 Blazer
1948 Ford 8N Tractor-Running Daily

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1409205 Sun May 09 2021 07:15 PM
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Thermostat choice is dictated somewhat by climate and intended use. I live in SLC, Utah which has four seasons and 100 degree summer days. I don’t drive my truck much in the winter but do in good weather. I had a 180 deg. at first which ran too hot in summer. Now I run a 160 deg. which does not leave me wondering if it is going to boil over in traffic or leave a puddle when I park it.

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1409279 Mon May 10 2021 03:00 AM
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I defaulted to a 180.
I have heard 160s may not allow coolant to remain in the radiator long enough to effectively disipate heat.
I'll see what happens.
Thanks.


"Life is too short to drive a new vehicle ! !"

1953 3100 3 Window
1939 2dr Master DeLuxe Sedan-Primary Project
1985 K5 Blazer
1948 Ford 8N Tractor-Running Daily

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Phak1 #1410072 Sun May 16 2021 12:38 PM
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phak 1 You need to watch vice grip garage to learn new terminology Derik (spel) he is just full of it,fun show !!!

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1411239 Tue May 25 2021 12:41 AM
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Congrats! The only better feeling is watching it MOVE ON ITS OWN POWER!! Keep goin'!


1957 Chevy Panel Truck, powered by SBC 350 from 1977 Camaro
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Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
pan3lman #1411511 Thu May 27 2021 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pan3lman
Congrats! The only better feeling is watching it MOVE ON ITS OWN POWER!! Keep goin'!
That first ride clearly trumps the all be it awesome first start.

Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
Crowbar65 #1413174 Tue Jun 08 2021 08:28 PM
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"Water not stay in the radiator long enough to cool..." Old wive's tale. The racers up the flow rate as much as possible to reduce hot spots within the engine. I've run with no thermostat and it never got above 140. I run mine over the mountains (5600 ft.) in the summer and found the 180 is too hot. Engine is noisier when it's hotter. 160 seems just right. I no longer drive it in the winter because the state is now using de-icer on the roads so I just leave the 160 in year round.


51 3800 PU, 55 235 (w/cam, headers, 2 carbs, MSD ign.), SM420 & Brown-Lipe 6231A 3spd aux. trans, stock axles & brakes. Owned since 1971.
Re: It's alive....53 3100, 216
1Ton_tommy #1413189 Tue Jun 08 2021 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Ton_tommy
"Water not stay in the radiator long enough to cool..." Old wive's tale.

A little math quickly dispels that notion. If your coolant flows slower through your radiator dissipating heat, it also flows slower through your block and heads, gaining heat. Your engine head temp is around 400 degrees, or 220 ABOVE the ideal engine coolant operating temperature of 180 degrees. Ambient air flowing through the radiator is approximately 80-100 degrees (depending on the weather), or 80 degrees LESS than the ideal engine coolant operating temperature. 220 degree gain versus 80 loss - the slower the coolant flows, the more it will heat up.


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