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#1404520 Sat Apr 03 2021 03:38 AM
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'Bolter
Well, we made it halfway home! The truck was running "OK" made it up to 43 MPH on the old gravel highway here in Montana. No traffic to deal with. The issue I ran into was my 12v battery just running out of juice. We were also losing daylight, without any lights or signals to speak of it was time to call it a night.

But I've since had a chance to dig into it, and it seems like quite a find indeed. I'm still trying to scrape years of crud off the engine to see what I've got. I'm certain it isn't the original motor. I'll include some pics and maybe someone can point me in the right direction.

We found a registration in the sun visor dated 1974. No other paperwork to speak of. Was a mechanical HI/LO original equipment in 47? My 61' bus was vacuum operated I believe, mounted to the rear and operated by a cable on the shifter. There's a ton of "aftermarket" options that were added over years. It has a lift bed and huge cable winch. The lift cylinder is missing, but the PTO hydraulic pump is still in place. It'll take a few posts to get all the pics in. But I'll do my best.

Can't wait to start really getting into it. I have a few other projects to get to but I'm hoping for a teardown this summer.

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OK- - - -first the engine- - - -you've got a 1954 or early 55 powerplant, either a 235 or maybe a 261 cubic inch. The 4-bolt valve cover and the high mount water pump pretty much narrow it down to those possibilities. Late 55 and up engines had the water pump a couple of inches lower on the block to accommodate the lower hood and radiator of the newer design bodywork. Try finding a stamped engine number on a machined pad just behind the distributor, and a block casting number down low near the fuel pump, and one of the number crunchers on the site will tell you just about everything you ever wanted to know about it, probably including the Jockey shorts size of the guy who cast the block!

The reverse lockout lever on the shifter identifies the transmission as the early non-synchronized "crash box". There will be a little bit of a learning curve to your shifting technique, particularly when downshifting. Have fun!
Jerry


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'Bolter
Cool !

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'Bolter
Nice find. Keep up the updates and pics.

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Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer)
That looks like an old oilfield rig. Is there a set of pivot points for gin poles at the back of the frame or the bed?
Jerry


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Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
That looks like an old oilfield rig. Is there a set of pivot points for gin poles at the back of the frame or the bed?
Jerry
I don't think oilfield, Jerry. There are a couple rollers on the back of the long overhang on the bed. More like a rollback wrecker. There's more pics showing the bed on his post in the Welcome Center that show the bed.


Kevin
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'Bolter
That second gearshift looks more like one for an auxiliary transmission. Does it have two transmissions?


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'Bolter
The shift levers are labeled:winch, PTO, bed. Probably newer went very fast with all that rigging in the front?

Ed


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'Bolter
Originally Posted by dsldriver
That second gearshift looks more like one for an auxiliary transmission. Does it have two transmissions?

I think it has a mechanical hi/lo..? It looks like 2 transmissions underneath. There's a short drive shaft from the trans into the unit in question, then it goes to the rear axle. The PTO is driven from the drivers side of the trans. I'll try and get some pics of the equipment underneath. There's a lot going on!

Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
That looks like an old oilfield rig. Is there a set of pivot points for gin poles at the back of the frame or the bed?
Jerry

Not sure what a gin pole is. There are "were" 2 pivot points at some point. The entire bed frame/structure is made of dimensional lumber. Then was wrapped in steel at some point in its life. It's probably extremely heavy! The winch is probably what broke the back window, that's some serious tubing the hay frame is made of and it looks like someone retracted the winch instead of releasing it. Tore the pipe and left the weld behind!


I did manage to get one stamped number uncovered, hasn't helped though.. S 0218
Located just behind the distributor.

Originally Posted by EdPruss
The shift levers are labeled:winch, PTO, bed. Probably newer went very fast with all that rigging in the front?

Ed
I labeled the handles Ed, while I was trying to make out what they were for. I believe the PTO has two positions and the direction the lever is in would determine if you were powering the winch or the hydraulic pump.

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Last edited by Dan Beluscak; Sat Apr 03 2021 11:05 PM.
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'Bolter
That is a super cool truck. I look forward to your continuing journey in your posts.

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