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Question about disc brakes
#1403338 Sat Mar 27 2021 11:26 PM
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Hello all. Continuing to upgrade my 49 chevy 1/2 ton. I have original style huck brakes on the front of the truck and late model drums on the back. I have seen a disc brake conversion at some parts vendors (Brothers Trucks and Classic Parts) that looks pretty simple. My question is this: can I just do the disc brake conversion upgrade on the front now and use the stock master cylinder with one line coming out and going front and back? I don't really want to tackle changing out the master cylinder and running new brake lines right now. I just want to improve my stopping power. Not happy with the huck style brakes on the front. I've attached a photo of the disc brake conversion I'm looking at.

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Darrell

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Re: Question about disc brakes
Darrell Day #1403340 Sun Mar 28 2021 12:05 AM
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GM Metric calipers use much more fluid to operate than the old slave cylinders. It would probably be best to upgrade the master, also.

Re: Question about disc brakes
MNSmith #1403362 Sun Mar 28 2021 02:24 AM
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Thanks Mark. After doing some more reading and research, looks like a new dual master cylinder will be in the works. Anyone else tackled this project?

Re: Question about disc brakes
Darrell Day #1403378 Sun Mar 28 2021 03:26 AM
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‘80’s Chevys used non-power master disc/disc that might work for you, disc brakes need more power or smaller ID masters to make up the power.

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Re: Question about disc brakes
Darrell Day #1403399 Sun Mar 28 2021 12:05 PM
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I installed the power disc kit from cpp on my 51 3100. Lines were not hard to manage. Followed the single line to the passenger frame rail and eliminated the T in the line. Ran a line from new master to front and rear and connected respectively where the T was. Had to cut a new hole in the floor to access new master location. Overall, it was one of the best things I’ve done to my truck. It will stop on a dime and I got tapered roller front wheel bearings to boot.

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Originally Posted by Sludgeburner
I installed the power disc kit from cpp on my 51 3100..
Is you truck a manual transmission? Most of the kits I see for power assist master cylinders state the they are for an automatic tranny. If yours is a manual, how and where did install the master. Did you modify the rear crossmember?

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Re: Question about disc brakes
Darrell Day #1403412 Sun Mar 28 2021 01:31 PM
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I did the brake upgrade on 1950 1/2t GMC. Mine was the CPP complete kit.

Disk brakes require higher brake pressure to the disks. So you absolutely need a new master and proportioning valve that supplies high brake pressure to the front and reduced or metered pressure to the rear drums.

If your doing this once the power brakes master is the way to go to get full benefit.

Most of the brake kits are very similar some actually are the same kit sold by supplier and dropped shipped for various vendors. There are variations in some kits.

I did the front hubs and bearing upgrade at the same time.

The clearance for the manual transmission seems to be a moving target. Multiple reports the kit just bolts I. With no conflicts.
My rear transmission cross member was missing. Many are missing and there are multiple prior posts on the crossmember topic.

I used my restored truck with out the cross member with the drum brakes, upgraded front disks without crossmember with no issues, then added rear transmission crossmember ( aftermarket ) (on a whim) could detect no difference in the brakes or driveline function.

My brake lines and master were replaced during the restoration. The front and rear lines were separated near the master during the upgrade to allow for the dual master.

I too ........believe the disk upgrade with dual master is one of best mods, right there with seat belts.

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Re: Question about disc brakes
Darrell Day #1403463 Sun Mar 28 2021 05:57 PM
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I've been thinking about doing this for many years. I'd like to keep the 4 speed. Some sources have stated that a 1" bore Corvette master cylinder from 1967 to 1976 will work if going with no power. An aftermarket crossmember came with the truck so that is an option as showkey has stated. I found that updating to a dual master cyclinder was a relatively easy project. I used a cyclinder from a 60's something GM. It was from the first year GM used a dual master cylinder. Works well with the original huck brakes.


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