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Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
#1403202 Sat Mar 27 2021 01:07 AM
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I have a 54 cab that I'm using but changing it over to 51 with split w/shield. Solid cab so thought it easier to change roof and cowl panel. Got new parts everything looks good until the upper corners are not going together real easy. the reinforcement corners at the top don't want to line up very well. I don't have an assembly manual for measurements and I'm at a cross roads trying to figure it out. Anyone tried this before that could give me some direction or would an assembly manual have answers? I figured that since post parts were listed as the same then the roof and cowl panel would change out and everything line up fairly easy. If the door frame assembly is different on 51 back but the same for 52 up 1st series then the upper attachment plate that the cross brace welds to should be the same. Roof and cowl panels show to be the same 47 up to 53 I believe.
Also, anyone had some experience with smooth firewall replacement panels...mine is good but has a load of holes in it and I thought it would be better to replace and then drill what is needed instead of welding old holes and filling. Thanks for any help and advice on this....

Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403360 Sun Mar 28 2021 02:19 AM
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You like biting off big chunks at a time I can see.
Maybe change your handle to Boltcrazy. smile
I have replaced a front cowl as well as the dash with new panels. It was a lot of work! The parts did not fit like a glove. I still have my fingers and toes crossed that the glass will fit the holes.

You are talking about removing all but a few feet of the entire windshield openings with aftermarket panels.
You will require more than wishes for good luck from me. You will need a lot of skill and a lot of patience.

Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403438 Sun Mar 28 2021 04:23 PM
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Understand that...I need more info as to measurements than I have that's for sure. I did corvettes for years and fiberglass is a bit more forgiving and I had plenty of sources for details. This stuff is a different ballgame. If I had something even rusty I could measure would be a big help. After market stuff is another can of worms. I'm hoping someone has some source of measurements or something.

Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403467 Sun Mar 28 2021 06:13 PM
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Anyone have a 1951 3100 series truck they would measure the windshield frame with pic's and dimensions? Need sizes without glass installed to get frame widths and heights and a cross measurement. Also need inside door post width edge to edge. Thanks for any help....

Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403601 Mon Mar 29 2021 04:20 AM
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Give me a day or two. My cab is sitting bare on a rolling pallet. I can get some measurements for you.
Not sure what you mean about inside door post width edge to edge.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403694 Mon Mar 29 2021 08:57 PM
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Thanks for the help on the measurements when you get a chance...that door post to post is the width from post to post. That will give me an idea if the width has closed up or not. When I took the cowl and roof panel loose I thought there would be enough metal to keep the posts from moving but don't know for sure without a measurement. The biggest issue is the windshield opening measurements.

Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403704 Mon Mar 29 2021 10:23 PM
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Here's some measurements for you. I tried to measure from the door post weld locations, which are a little fuzzy. It seems my cab is just a touch asymmetrical or the center strip is just a bit off center. Weld checking dimensions from the FAM are typically only good to +/- 1/16", so these should get you in the ballpark.I also added a couple dimensions to windshield flange from the center of the rear window (lower flange), which might help you keep things lined up.

Let me know if you need clarification on any of these or another dimension or two.

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Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403752 Tue Mar 30 2021 03:22 AM
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These are great and helps ...dropped you a PM

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Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1403918 Wed Mar 31 2021 12:46 AM
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Here's some other dimensions you asked for.

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Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Roof panel and cowl panel R&R 1951 3100
vettecrazy #1409145 Sun May 09 2021 01:26 AM
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Added some pic's on the above previous post. All went well except the firewall bottom corner won't fit in like it should. Aftermarket stuff just doesn't always fit in well. The firewall panel had some bent corners when I unpacked it but thought it would work out. It's closer than it was...lol

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