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Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402008 Fri Mar 19 2021 01:58 PM
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Not mentioned:
Will a female be a regular passenger?
She can smell diesel a mile away.

Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402058 Fri Mar 19 2021 07:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,266
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
And gear oil!

Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402151 Sat Mar 20 2021 11:53 AM
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We had 3 NPRs given to us a few years ago by a mail delivery company. They all had something wrong. Engine, trans, rearend. I don't quite recall the specifics. Anyhow, they just wanted them gone. My old man ended up parting them out. He even found someone wanting the remaining chassis. I think one of them went south of the border. Anyhow, there are deals out there to be had.

From personal experience, I can tell you that nickel and diming a build will take you forever to get anything done. Once you figure out what you want to do, just do it. It'll also help keep you from changing your mind a 100 times.

Anyhow, what are you towing that requires 20,000 lbs of capacity?

Here in the midwest you can also find old grain trucks for cheap at auction. Usually they have 366 or 427 tall decks. I've even seen some with 350s and 292s. They didn't do anything fast, but they got the job done.


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Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402537 Mon Mar 22 2021 06:42 PM
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I think it all depends on how fast you want to tow and how much money you want to spend. Diesels are incredibly expensive up front and when problems arise. Gas is the opposite in my opinion. I’ve owned both and will not go diesel agin because I have no need for them. I’ve pulled a 50’ gooseneck full up with 350 square bales of hay with a 350 small block in a crew cab dually my across several states. Granted it wouldn’t win any races but it got the job done. My 500whp Cummins pulled the same load like it wasn’t there, but cost 5 times more to put together.

Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402559 Mon Mar 22 2021 09:59 PM
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I bought a Dodge rollover 4wd pickup, took the 5.9 out, almost broke even on the whole deal, got the engine free.

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402572 Mon Mar 22 2021 11:39 PM
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A (tall) axle ratio useful for the diesel's low RPM torque may be an extra expense.

Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402618 Tue Mar 23 2021 01:01 PM
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When you figure in the price difference between diesel fuel and gas is a diesel really that much cheaper to run?


Old enough to know better, too young to resist.
Re: Big Block or Diesel?
mick53 #1402624 Tue Mar 23 2021 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mick53
When you figure in the price difference between diesel fuel and gas is a diesel really that much cheaper to run?

In my experience, NO. I've been driving Cummins diesel pickups since '95. You really can't justify the additional purchase and maintenance cost of a diesel with fuel cost savings or mpg. However there is a strong case to be made for their longevity and power (make that torque). I've been pulling a 12k hunting trailer over the Rockies every October for 20 years with my Dodge Cummins, at it's current state of tune (300ish rwhp and 700 tq) it does fine. A couple years ago the wife and I used her gas 6.4 hemi 2500 (410 rwhp 430 tq) to pull her 12k horse trailer over the same roads and I wanted to get out and push MANY times as crawled up several passes.

RonR

Last edited by moparguy; Tue Mar 23 2021 01:43 PM.

1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
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Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1402632 Tue Mar 23 2021 03:02 PM
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A detroit 2 stroke wont come close to the fuel millage of a cummings , but it will sound wicked . But again not many of us use these trucks for practical purposes and are just built to ones personal tastes , so go at it , enjoy . At one point years ago my desired power train was a 453 T with jake brake and air start connected to duplex set up but the cost was far beyond my comfort zone .

John


good planning is no substitute for dumb luck
Re: Big Block or Diesel?
BignScar #1403388 Sun Mar 28 2021 04:05 AM
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I pulled a gooseneck with gross 20k from Indiana to SoCal in my 2013 ford F250 SD at 75 to 80 MPH with no issues. It has the 6.2 gas engine. Plenty of power and never overheated but at one point I was getting 6.8 MPG, ouch.


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