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Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
#1399889 Wed Mar 03 2021 10:10 PM
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When talking to customer service at one of the suppliers, they strongly suggested "painting the backside" of the headliner before install. This is to prevent condensation from being absorbed into the material and ruining it over time. I'm thinking a coat of satin clear coat would be a good candidate and even thought about coating both sides and do the same on the door panels. Any suggestions ?


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1399909 Thu Mar 04 2021 12:49 AM
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"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
If you're doing a full on restoration, this isn't much help. B that's why I went ABS. No moisture issues. From this to that. That cardboard was barely a month old and already getting wavy.

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Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1399912 Thu Mar 04 2021 01:20 AM
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Thanks Mark. Well, I've already purchased the whole kit, bang, and ka-boodle so I'm sorta stuck. You think a coat of clear would crack while trying to install that headliner?


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1399937 Thu Mar 04 2021 04:55 AM
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You can spend $50 dollars more for Formica and use the cardboard as templates.

Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1399999 Thu Mar 04 2021 07:47 PM
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You should be able to find a clear flexible enough to accomplish what you need.

Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
ndkid275 #1400046 Thu Mar 04 2021 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ndkid275
You can spend $50 dollars more for Formica and use the cardboard as templates.
I'm not even going to tell ya'll why I'm on my third set of door panels. You couldn't make up the stuff I can do....


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1400116 Fri Mar 05 2021 04:20 PM
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I agree with the use of Formica 100%. A friend of mine learned the hard way that ABS doesn't like UV light.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1400328 Sun Mar 07 2021 04:05 AM
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I went ahead and decided to "coat" the back side of the headliner with an enamel paint. I was surprised how the paint soaked into the material. This will be my second attempt at the headliner. We got the first one installed and had "gaps" which I at first blamed on the manufacturer and later decided it was me. Tried a different supplier and hoping what I learned last time will help make this next attempt my last. Thanks to all who responded for the suggestions.


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1400410 Sun Mar 07 2021 05:15 PM
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Just an observation...in a 1951 I owned, the center bow of the headliner sat straight onto the roof metal with nothing between those pieces. The soundproofing (installed in two pieces at the factory) had a gap of 1.5 inches or so between two pieces...one for the front part of the cab and one for the rear. In the 1951 the headliner panels had so little material that fit under the windlace flap they almost had gaps from the start. I should add the original headliner in the 51 had gaps all the way across the top of it before I removed it and the gaps were greatest at the point where both panels met at the bow.

However in the 1952, the soundproofing pieces were different. They were still applied in two pieces, but there were 3 or 4 pieces of the soundproofing material applied across the gap and the center bow sat atop them...forcing it down closer to my head (obviously) by the thickness of the soundproofing material (3/16 to 1/4" I think). In the 1952, the same headliner piece sat at least 1/4 inside the windlace flap...and I've always thought it was because the center bow forced both front and rear parts of the headliner cardboard downward. The headliner in the 1952 was worn out and needed replacement, but there weren't any gaps between it and the windlace flap, by the way.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Prepping door panels and headliner for install 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1401136 Fri Mar 12 2021 10:08 PM
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Jon,
I'm going to take a look at what you've described. Currently there is no sound deadener material on the inside of roof metal. Thanks for the suggestion.


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
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