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Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399536 Mon Mar 01 2021 05:57 PM
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Don't forget to take it out of gear.


Brian
1955.2 3100 Truck


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Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399543 Mon Mar 01 2021 06:50 PM
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Sir Searchalot
Originally Posted by Fuzzyx33
Bartamos
The engine is a 235. The last time it started was about 2 years ago. Right now I don’t have the fuel tank hooked up. Just the fuel line in a full gas can. I’m just trying to get her to start. Ive replace the points and reducer. I e replace the generator with a 12v alternator. Not hooked up yet. I keep doubting the wiring. What’s the best way (by myself)to test to see if all 6 plugs are getting spark or do you suggest test something else? By the way....can I post a video so that the forum can see and hear what’s going on?

5. The first big questions is "no start" to a beginner can mean "won't crank" or "won't even fire once" or "fires a few times" or starts for a moment but dies or backfires thru carb or tail pipe.

I predict 16 pages on this one.


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Re: Vacuum Advance
55 SHAKER #1399545 Mon Mar 01 2021 06:56 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
Haha. She’s completely torn down. No wiring. No bed or body panels. I do have the cab set but no pedals or doors or steering wheel. So I had to test if it was in gear or not yesterday. Needless to say she gave a nice kick backwards. Yes I cleared everything from the front and back just in case. She’s in neutral now. Does the clutch have to be pushed I. To start the truck or will being in neutral allow me to start it?

Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399546 Mon Mar 01 2021 06:57 PM
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Sir Searchalot
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Watch out for careful drivers!!!
I'm away on an ego trip. Will be back on Feb 30.
I'm not an Auto Mechanic, but I play one on TV.
I charge $0.02 for every opinion and I take Paypal.
Plan B is always better than plan A, by definition.
You can't teach a new dog old tricks.


Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399547 Mon Mar 01 2021 06:58 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
It fires but it’s like it’s not getting fuel to actually start.

Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399549 Mon Mar 01 2021 07:07 PM
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Sir Searchalot
1. How many wires on the coil and where do they go? Be specific.
2. Is this still a 6V truck or has someone converted it completely to 12V.
3. Sounds like you already know how to crank it.
4. Do you have a foot start or a dash mounted push button or a key start? I know you have a key switch/ignition switch. Some are just on/off. Some have a spring loaded start position.
5. I'll tell you how to wire the ignition after these questions are answered.
6. What brand of what? do we suggest?
7. Did it fire after the last work you did to it? After the last parts you added? Make sure you know what "fire" means.
8. When you said points and reducer, did you mean points and condenser?...or a voltage reducer?

"It fires but it’s like it’s not getting fuel to actually start." Don't give your analysis or folks will go off on a tangent using your analysis. If it fires it has spark and some gas. Not ready to decide what is wrong until we know what is wrong. We all have our guess right now but further info from you will narrow. All we need is your careful answers. Answer the questions in order to maintain order.

Stop trying to start it. Stop swapping parts. If in neutral, you don't need to push clutch.


Watch out for careful drivers!!!
I'm away on an ego trip. Will be back on Feb 30.
I'm not an Auto Mechanic, but I play one on TV.
I charge $0.02 for every opinion and I take Paypal.
Plan B is always better than plan A, by definition.
You can't teach a new dog old tricks.


Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399553 Mon Mar 01 2021 07:17 PM
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'Bolter
40 pages, and a few episodes of moderator meddling!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399561 Mon Mar 01 2021 08:17 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
1.
2. I have started the conversion to 12v. Swapped out generator for 12v alternator. New 12v coil. New 12v battery. nothing else has been converted (light bulbs - horn) This truck is completely torn down
3. Yeah i know how to crank it
4. I have a push button on the dash. Key switch is on/off
5.
6.What brand of Electronic ignition should i consider? A few guys said dont do Pertronix
7. The last time i tried to get it to start was yesterday. I put a shot of gas in the carb, hit the start button and it turns over. (hopefully thats the correct term). It does everything but stay running. Ive been trying to get her started for a year now. (when i have time) SO yesterday i decided to take the distributor, fuel pump and carb off to clean good and inspect real good. Thats when i decided to switch from points and condenser to and electronic ignition. So those 3 pieces are on my workbench pretty much torn down. so to answer #1...there are no wires to the coil right now. I cant find a simple diagram for that wiring. All the diagrams look like my 84 year old aunts varicose veins in her legs.
8. Yes points and condenser

Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399562 Mon Mar 01 2021 08:25 PM
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Sir Searchalot
You have now created a basket case. I can not help you at this time. Very sorry. You have taken a truck apart and a motor apart and wiring apart in the middle of a 12V conversion and you want to know how to start it.

Without getting into a huge discussion and to make it simple..... There are no "brands of electronic ignition" that fit your motor. Just stock and Pertronix kit. There is a company called Langdon that converts a GM HEI to fit I guess.


Watch out for careful drivers!!!
I'm away on an ego trip. Will be back on Feb 30.
I'm not an Auto Mechanic, but I play one on TV.
I charge $0.02 for every opinion and I take Paypal.
Plan B is always better than plan A, by definition.
You can't teach a new dog old tricks.


Re: Vacuum Advance
Fuzzyx33 #1399564 Mon Mar 01 2021 08:43 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 22,144
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'Bolter
Hire a mechanic to straighten out the mess you've created. Bye!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
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