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The alternative condenser update
#1388813 Fri Dec 18 2020 12:55 AM
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Edit by Rusty Rod: If you are interested in obtaining this item, please use either a private message or go to the swapmeet forum.
How/where do I buy the condensers? Thanks!
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthread...ew-advanced-design-condenser.html#UNREAD


A few weeks ago...maybe a couple of months...I began a thread about an alternative condenser. Some good and interesting comments were generated. In the time since that post, work has been ongoing. Attached are images to show the final design. The capacitor I selected has to date been tested by three people (in the distributor of their 235) and aside from a connection issue (which was my fault), it has worked without flaw. I've been told the engines start easily, run smoothly and run well. As you may recall, what I was hoping to offer was an improved alternative to the condensers available today. A modern and dependable solution for those still using points ignition (of which there are obviously many). I did no small amount of research this past summer only to learn no condensers are still made in the USA and haven't been for a while. I know some were made in South America for a few years, but today it seems all are made in China. What I suspect is those are made once every so often in large runs of several thousand by the same company and then distributed jobber-style or via Alibaba to companies who re-package under their own label.

What has been posted here and on other auto forums is that the capacitors available today fail at an alarming rate and some are dead right out of the box. Evidently some don't last longer than a few miles or a few hours. Others have told me theirs seems to work fine until the engine warms up and then the engine dies. One or two have told me their condenser died suddenly for no apparent reason leaving them stranded. This is all to be expected. A few people around here (certainly Jerry and Evan) know why this is the case. I don't see how some of the stuff I cut open could continuously conduct electricity at all, in fact. I believe an intermittent connection is the best they could provide. Today's capacitors are precise and long-lasting and they allow the user to enjoy a perfect connection.

As you see below, the unit is small, neat, easy to install and very straightforward. I tried several different approaches and several different orientations, but in the end Occam's Razor came into play and simplicity won. The capacitance is what your engine was designed to need, and your points should last longer as a result. This is rated for use up to 250+ degrees, rated for vibration and it should last for around 300,000 hours. We can discuss this topic and the particulars as long as anyone wishes, but please do not mention the words buy nor sell here. If you want to use those words, please go to the "for sale" section.

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Condenser 1.JPG (17.85 KB, 458 downloads)
Condenser 2.JPG (14.48 KB, 453 downloads)
Last edited by Rusty Rod; Thu Dec 31 2020 04:03 PM.

Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388829 Fri Dec 18 2020 02:43 AM
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Jon, it’s obvious you have done a ton of research and given a lot of thought to this project. I pose a couple of non electrical engineer questions. First will the units work on Chevy 6 volt systems? Will they work on GMC 6 volt positive ground? Just curious.


Martin
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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388830 Fri Dec 18 2020 02:54 AM
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Most capacitors (condensers) are not polarity specific, with the possible exception of electrolytic capacitors that definitely are not applicable here. They don't really care whether the input voltage is 6V or 12V, since they operate at the 100 volts or more that gets induced in the primary ignition circuit once the points break. Jon's condenser looks like it will do at least as well as, and probably better than the high quality American-made ones we used to install 50-something years ago. Those could be used on either 6V or 12V systems, positive or negative ground, also. The only reason for different part numbers was to accommodate different lengths of conductors, and mounting hardware, etc.
Jerry


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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388837 Fri Dec 18 2020 03:41 AM
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Jon G. This looks like a good deal. Is it possible for a person such as myself that is a little bit handy to build them? At any rate, I hope you will post them in the Swap Meet area. Or ebay.


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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388843 Fri Dec 18 2020 04:10 AM
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Jerry got the answer spot on about voltage, polarity, etc (as I knew he would). You may recall Jerry and I covered that aspect a few months ago when we discussed the mandatory requirements for any capacitor used in this application. And I did list them in the for sale area. I'm not going to pollute this section with very much "for sale" talk but this is a solution I'm offering essentially on a cost-plus basis and the "plus" is slim (meaning I'm only hoping to break even and make enough to pay for a pizza or two here). Yes, you can build it yourself but for $12 delivered with a tracking number...do you want to go to the trouble? The heavy lifting has already been done, in other words. The whole reason for this project was just to offer a solution to a known and widely documented problem with points ignition and a component part which has devolved in quality and dependability to a ridiculous low point.

I don't sell on eBay any longer. I did for quite a while, but I became the victim of so much copyright infringement, piracy, attempted identity theft, etc that I will never again sell anything reliant on intellectual property there...and some of the stuff I've written is housed in the Library of Congress for what it is worth. A large snake pit, that eBay.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388848 Fri Dec 18 2020 06:01 AM
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Jon,
We got a couple of test platforms to try your units on; a 58 Chevy 283 12v negative ground and a Studebaker Lark 12v positive ground. My bet is the capacitors (condensers) work to perfection but since once they are run through the shop few get driven more than a thousand miles a year. Maybe sporadic use is a better test that daily driven ones. Both are a month from going out the door but will keep an update on them.


Evan
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388858 Fri Dec 18 2020 01:43 PM
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First the disclaimer. What follows has not been collaborated with Jon in any shape form or fashion. Just my observations and results.

Well, it's about time! He said with a grin. I'm one of lucky bata testers and could not be happier with this easy, simple upgrade . Just to support Jon's comments, the capacitor works! Installation takes 5 minutes or so, exactly like installing a standard condenser. The design is well thought out and the elegant simplicity makes you wonder "what took so long?".

After running Jon's upgrade for a few weeks I temporarily changed back to one of my standby glovebox condensers. Now this was immediately after filling up the almost empty gas tank with non-ethanol gas. Truck started running like crap. I didn't know if it was fuel or ignition. Turns out it was the (what I believe to be good) condenser. Back to the capacitor and all the low/high speed miss, slow start, disappeared.

After hundreds of miles and many dozens of almost instant starts I'll never go back to a standard old school condenser. Heck I may put the dual point distributor back in the 340 Duster and try one there as well. Hummmmm.

RonR


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388877 Fri Dec 18 2020 03:53 PM
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Thanks much for the comments and the interest in this project. One thing I forgot to mention last night. The prototypes had been made using 3/4" brass, but yesterday the place where I bought it told me I could have 1 inch wide for the same price. This fit the width of the capacitors exactly, but I discovered I needed to trim the corner to miss the screw where the distributor floor was attached. So disregard the picture I posted before and expect them to look like the picture below.

Someone else asked if the swap was difficult. No, it isn't. Actually I've tried to make it as simple as possible and personally I think it is easier to install these than the old style. Just use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. Makes stabbing the screw and getting it started less of a pain. Below you can see the old style and the new style. You will notice the connector wire is a bit longer than the original one. During this study it occurred to me while the capacitor valued used between different makes/models may be the same, the distributors they go in may be different. So if you have a V8 or a different make of distributor (larger diameter), this should fit.

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MVC-393F.JPG (15.07 KB, 381 downloads)
MVC-391F.JPG (28.3 KB, 388 downloads)
MVC-392F.JPG (38.69 KB, 389 downloads)

Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388878 Fri Dec 18 2020 04:02 PM
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Jon, here's a bit of hopefully constructive commentary from an old geezer who has installed a few thousand point/condenser sets. Do whatever is necessary to avoid the condenser lead rubbing the distributor housing, like maybe putting a couple of twists into it. The constant motion of the breaker plate caused by the vacuum advance on some applications can wear a hole in the insulation and short out the points. That's not an issue on the old stovebolt distributors because the breaker plate doesn't move- - - - -the whole housing does- - - -but on anything else it might cause problems.
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388897 Fri Dec 18 2020 07:20 PM
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Thanks Jerry. I thought of that same thing the other day. Maybe a small twist tie or something like that if needed. I've been (up to this stage) pretty focused on the stovebolt type distributors...


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388899 Fri Dec 18 2020 07:34 PM
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The simplest approach is to just put a corkscrew twist in the wire to shorten it a bit and keep it from rubbing on the housing or getting against the moving point spring. Also, the insulated conductor on most commercial condensers is made from high-flex wire similar to the test leads on a voltmeter to allow them to move repeatedly without getting metal fatigue in the wire strands. That's also a good idea on the wire from the coil to the distributor housing on a stovebolt, since the housing is in motion all the time.
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388903 Fri Dec 18 2020 08:03 PM
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Good tip Jerry. Years ago I ran across a friend who was dead on the side of the road in his Jeep Cherokee. I opened the hood to do some troubleshooting and discovered he had no spark. Digging further, found that the condenser wire had shorted just like you described. Rerouted it away from the housing as a temporary fix and he was able to get home.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1388911 Fri Dec 18 2020 09:04 PM
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What's really frustrating is when that short is intermittent- - - - -the engine starts and idles OK, but as soon as the vacuum advance starts to move, the bare spot contacts the housing. The result is a stutter exactly like the ignition is being switched off and back on repeatedly. If disconnecting the vacuum advance line either stalls the engine or makes the problem go away, start looking for a shorted wire, or one with strands broken under the insulation that open circuit intermittently as the breaker plate moves. Mid-1960's Ford V8's used to be notorious for getting fatigued wire strands between the distributor housing grommet and the points!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389022 Sat Dec 19 2020 03:56 PM
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Awesome work on this Jon! We have been discussing on VCCA Chat and glad to see the work you have done. Yep, even the purists don't want the overseas junk and these condensers have caused even calm guys like Tiny to pull out his hair.

There are indeed very good capacitors on the market that will work very reliably as a replacement. They just don't look and mount the same as a condenser and you have done a great job making them fit this application. Fantastic legwork on these!

The cheap condensers available remind me of Dollar Store items - made to look like something useful but comprised of junk materials.

Great work Jon!

Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389048 Sat Dec 19 2020 05:49 PM
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Thanks...I've sold the ones I made first, but when time allows I'll make more. Sort of hard to judge demand & interest. I thought about hiding the capacitor in a thin walled aluminum tube, but it isn't easy to find those in the USA. Once upon a time they were made for several things (including fluorescent ballasts), but I guess those days are gone. The nice thing is you don't see this item, so nobody will know it has been altered.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389180 Sun Dec 20 2020 08:24 PM
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Just a thought, we have a company in the county that employs the developmentally disabled to manufacture simple items. If you have an outfit like that where you live you may be able to contract with them to put these together for you and sell a higher volume. The outfit here could easily cut the wire to a given length, crimp a split flag terminal on one end and solder the other end to the capacitor. It would lower your profit per item but vastly increase the number of items produced all while taking the burden of production off of you. The disabled working here put out very high quality items. It's a matter of great pride to them.

Last edited by Tiny; Sun Dec 20 2020 08:26 PM.

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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389192 Sun Dec 20 2020 09:38 PM
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We have the same type of setup in OKC.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2) “Emily”
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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389223 Mon Dec 21 2020 01:00 AM
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Those are very good suggestions and I imagine the same thing exists here. Once I get a feel for the demand, I may well pursue something along those lines.

Along another line, Jerry courteously reminded me these probably will find their way into other distributors and of course those won't operate in a fixed floor manner (like the Stovebolt distributor does). Here is an example of a note which will accompany each condenser shipment. If you see any errors or think I should add anything please let me know.

Attached Files
Advanced Design Condenser notes.pdf (99.54 KB, 56 downloads)

Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389270 Mon Dec 21 2020 04:07 PM
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Looks good, Jon! Since vacuum advance systems (and distributors in general) are pretty much obsolete, a lot of people simply won't think about keeping the wiring away from moving parts. My grandson is making his living as a full time mechanic, mostly doing suspension work and wheel alignment right now, but I'm surprised frequently about his lack of "common sense" knowledge of how to deal with the older cars and trucks. I suppose if you didn't grow up around the older rigs, what used to be common knowledge isn't so common anymore!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389317 Mon Dec 21 2020 08:16 PM
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Thanks Jerry. Common knowledge is largely held in cottage industries today...


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389378 Tue Dec 22 2020 02:10 AM
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Install was simple and my 216 really seemed to start quicker on initial startup today. Barely turned over once before she fired right up.


Ed
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389446 Tue Dec 22 2020 04:52 PM
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Good! I'm glad the installation went well and quicker starting is one of the things that ought to happen. Weak spark can be the result of a bad condenser and that naturally makes starting more unpredictable. By the way, every one of these capacitors I've tested has been impressively accurate. Since you might be curious also, please see example below.

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Testing 1, 2, 3.JPG (24.92 KB, 248 downloads)

Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389465 Tue Dec 22 2020 08:14 PM
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Got mine today. Spiffy little box you made to ship them in. Worked great. I'll probably wait for warmer weather or a no start crisis to put them in.


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Re: The alternative condenser update
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A nice little Christmas present arrived in my mailbox today as well. Will install this coming spring after the long winter's nap is over here. Merry Christmas everyone!

Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389696 Thu Dec 24 2020 07:20 PM
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Mine arrived yesterday.. safely stored for future use.


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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389723 Thu Dec 24 2020 10:59 PM
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The dogsled arrived with mine today. Nicely packaged and a quality looking item. Thanks, Jon.


Kevin
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#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389857 Sat Dec 26 2020 12:40 AM
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The thanks (for support of the project) should come from me, Kevin. And it truly does. I didn't make it to the metal store, but I will do that next week and will hopefully have time to make some more.

As promised, the next project will be an advanced design fuel gauge sending unit. This work has actually been going on conceptually for around 4 years (off/on) and pleasantly a discovery three days ago (Christmas miracle, I'll call it) let me see a way to make a sender for the AD trucks which will not only be sensitive, accurate and interesting but as perfectly linear as I believe would ever be possible. And at least on the drawing board it looks to be fool-proof. If this approach has ever been used on any sort of fluid level sender, I've never seen it nor heard of it. And uniquely it will be matched to the AD gas tank almost perfectly...I think.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389860 Sat Dec 26 2020 01:02 AM
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Jon,

I hope you will not mind my correcting you on “terminology”. I usually try to keep quiet on making this correction :

The 1947 - 1955-2nd series Chevrolet Trucks were/are called Advance-Design trucks. (with a hyphen, and, not “Advanced”)

The GMC trucks during that time-period were named New Design trucks (with no hyphen).

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389865 Sat Dec 26 2020 03:31 AM
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Hi Tim,
No offense taken whatsoever, but please let me clarify...The words "advanced design" appealed to me because the condenser was a forward-leaning (advanced) departure and improvement from the the only thing available today and the fuel gauge sender is likewise going to be an avant-garde departure and therefore will also qualify as an advanced design. Advanced over the old non-linear style that has been copied so crudely by folks in another country. Another product for this truck no longer made in the USA, which I will admit I enjoy trying to improve. Guess I could have used a synonym like newfangled, but the word advanced carries a certain unmistakable verve, yes? It will work also in the GMC trucks as far as I know. I owned one of those donkey's years years ago and as I recall the gas tank was the same design as the Chevrolet. At this point I need to (a) make it work and (b) write a technical document that makes a convincing case and (c) find out what the patent office thinks.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours also.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389866 Sat Dec 26 2020 04:18 AM
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I am looking forward to receiving/using your condensers, Jon

I am not looking forward to below freezing weather tomorrow.

I hope you had a Merry Christmas, and I wish you a happy and prosperous New Year.
We had a very nice Christmas with our daughter and two grand children.

We are visiting Cape Hatteras tomorrow - It should get above freezing by mid-day.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389955 Sun Dec 27 2020 12:37 AM
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Jon G, I tried asking this in the "truck parts for sale" but I noticed this continuation over here so.... I have never used PayPal (don't even know how it works or how safe it is). Do you have another form of payment that is convenient for you to pay for one of these "advanced" condensers? I would also be interested in the "gas gauge sending unit" when that is become available. And is that $12 plus shipping or a flat $12? Thank you
Stewart

Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389960 Sun Dec 27 2020 01:08 AM
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Well, I guess I didn't read the whole thread before posting my last BUT I didn't use either "--y" or "---l". Sorry about that for coming so close.
Stewart

Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1389973 Sun Dec 27 2020 03:34 AM
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Jon,

I received the condensers today. They look real nice.

Happy New Year & Thanks,
Tim


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1390464 Wed Dec 30 2020 06:22 PM
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Hi Stewart...the $12 includes cost of postage. A personal check is fine. Please PM me for my postal address.
Best regards,
Jon


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1390465 Wed Dec 30 2020 06:23 PM
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For anyone interested, more of these have been made now. Just let me know by PM or email how I can help. Email is jon_goodman@yahoo.com


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1390500 Wed Dec 30 2020 09:56 PM
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Pm sent. John


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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1390596 Thu Dec 31 2020 12:47 PM
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For those wanting to buy I'd like to direct you to Jon's thread in the Swap Meet forums. Buying and selling happens there. Thanks.


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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1390612 Thu Dec 31 2020 01:54 PM
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How/where do I buy the condensers? Thanks!

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Jon G #1390616 Thu Dec 31 2020 02:00 PM
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Re: The alternative condenser update
texczech #1390619 Thu Dec 31 2020 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by texczech
How/where do I buy the condensers? Thanks!
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Re: The alternative condenser update
Jon G #1390638 Thu Dec 31 2020 04:00 PM
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It is time to turn this thread off.


Another quality post.


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