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Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1385953 Thu Nov 26 2020 01:20 AM
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Crusty Old Sarge
Paint Day happened, I'm really happy with the results. I have to thank Keefe again for the use of the paint booth and him doing the dirty work (Thank the Lord for good friends). I used Universal Red ceramic high temp engine paint from Eastwood. We followed the instructions and mixed at a 4:1 ratio paint to activator, no reducer was needed. The weather was perfect, it was 72 degrees and sunny.

I wiped the engine down with acetone just prior to painting. Keefe applied a light coat for the first and we waited 20 minutes before applying the second coat. Keefe used a HVLP paint gun he actually picked up from Harbor Freight yesterday, he has an expensive gun but just wanted to try this one. He said he was impressed with a gun that only cost $9.00, it was easy to adjust and the spray pattern was spot on.

I'll let the engine set up over the Thanksgiving and bring it home Friday. The fun is just getting started, I'm still smiling. grin

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Engine Painting 1
Engine Painting 2.jpg (160.87 KB, 139 downloads)
Engine Painting 2
Engine Painting 3.jpg (164.78 KB, 129 downloads)
Engine Painting 3

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1385991 Thu Nov 26 2020 12:40 PM
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Love the red color! It will look great with those white headers!


Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
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‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1387096 Sat Dec 05 2020 01:50 AM
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I finally took a couple of hours this week and worked on final assembly of the 327. The paint turned out great and the finish is hard and has a nice gloss, it looks great against the stainless hardware from ARP. I adjusted the valves and bolted on the valve covers, I used Speedway neoprene steel-core gaskets. I mounted the intake and carb, the intake is a vintage Edelbrock C4B, this was Vic Edelbrock's first production intake. The carb is a Holley 680 CFM Double Pumper with vacuum secondary's and electric choke. I used a 1" Mr. Gasket spacer to add a little more length to the the plenums.

I used an AC Delco short shaft water pump, the heads are not drilled for accessories so I chose to keep that same look. I did want to upgrade to a serpentine belt, for this I used a March Performance Crank and Water pump pulley combination. The pulleys are six row rib and as such I had to change the alternator pulley as well. The alternator is a Power Master single wire unit rated at 140 Amps with a 54" Dayco Belt. The bracket are from Specter with a little modification to the upper mount. I really liked the way the serpentine pulleys and belt drive turned out, it's clean and should give years of reliable use.

I am still working out the fuel line from the pump to the Carb, all the lines are stainless. The fuel pump is a Holley 110 GPM unit that is rebuildable, I added a Jegs in line fuel pressure gauge at the Carb. The headers are eye candy as "Jerry" would say, I doubt the engine spends too much time in the RPM range needed to make them effective, but do love the sound. My palms get sweaty just thinking about bringing this to life and hearing it run. yahoo

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Engine Assembled 3
Last edited by TUTS 59; Sat Dec 05 2020 02:01 AM. Reason: Add Pictures

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1387131 Sat Dec 05 2020 11:51 AM
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That looks really great! I like the old school look. Nice work.


Dan

35 CC Case
38 Chevy Pickup
51 3100 AD
58 3100 Apache Fleetside
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1387134 Sat Dec 05 2020 12:33 PM
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Lookin’ Good! Won’t be long now to hear that baby fire up! nanner


Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
Project Journals
‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1389025 Sat Dec 19 2020 04:19 PM
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Crusty Old Sarge
Hey everyone. I 'm getting the final pieces together to set the engine in the frame. Mounted the distributor, plug and wires. Had to take the engine off the stand to mount the flywheel and bell housing. I used ARP flywheel bolt with Loc Tite and torqued to 85 ft lbs, once in the frame I'll mount the starter. thumbs_up

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Engine off of Stand
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Plugs and Wires
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Flywheel Mounted
Engine on sling.jpg (32.65 KB, 69 downloads)
Engine on Sling

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1389039 Sat Dec 19 2020 05:02 PM
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So as all great plans go there are so issues. First, the Free Be headers wont fit the chassis ( go figure), they won't clear the original transmission crossmember. Answer cut off the collectors, hey they were free! The headers I used to mock up the engine were from a 69" C10, that was 15 years ago and they were trash then. The up side is I know what headers I need, the down side I just cut up my cool old school white headers dang

Second, the ultra cool urethane motor mounts are to short. Answer use the original style mounts that were used during the mock up (DUH HUH) again that was 15 years ago. I'll figure out the long term fix after the engine run in.

I just used 2x4's to mount the radiator for now, I haven't even touched the radiator core support. A few more tasks and I'll be ready to fire the engine, the goal is for Sunday so keep your fingers crossed for me. dance

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Engine in frame
Engine in Frame 2.jpg (187.23 KB, 72 downloads)
Engine in Frame 2
Engine and Radiator 1.jpg (210.64 KB, 68 downloads)
Engine and Radiator
Engine and Radiator 2.jpg (29.25 KB, 64 downloads)
Engine and Radiator 2

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1389366 Tue Dec 22 2020 01:33 AM
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So today I fired the 327. It fired first try and actually idled , I set the timing and adjusted the carb settings. I ran it up to temp and then bumped the idle up above 2000 RPM and ran it for 30 minutes to break the cam in. After the cam was run in I shut it down and looked over everything, the oil looked good and the temp was holding about 185 (200 at the head). I fired it back up and throttled it back several times , above 5000 RPM at one point, "if it's going to come apart lets do it now". I'm smiling from ear to ear, dang this thing wants to run grin.

https://www.vzmessages.com/vl/51c75b74bc97c3cb230cebeff43e89e7b37d468e

https://www.vzmessages.com/vl/31d9c37c199ba14a60dea97cabc6adcb5481353f

Last edited by TUTS 59; Wed Dec 23 2020 02:22 PM.

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1389383 Tue Dec 22 2020 02:34 AM
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Very cool. That’s a fun day!


Dan

35 CC Case
38 Chevy Pickup
51 3100 AD
58 3100 Apache Fleetside
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1390122 Mon Dec 28 2020 01:59 PM
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So now that the engines been fired (still smiling), I need to tackle the motor mounts. I had thought about leaving well enough alone but I really want to use the urethane mounts. I took a good look at what I have now and have decided to make some new brackets. I welded the se up years ago and well my welding skill has improved a lot. I was thinking about using some 2" square tubing I have and mocking up new side mounts.

While I have the welder out I'll look at the brake booster mount and hydraulic clutch set up.

I'm looking at headers as well, I really want to keep the white tubes but would like to have ceramic coated as well. Always an adventure. grin


Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
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