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*Residental Electrical Help*
#1385261 Fri Nov 20 2020 02:26 AM
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Shop Shark
I live in Indiana and not sure about the code. I'm going to hang a 5000 watt 240 electric heater in my garage. The 10/2 Romex wire will be ran from the heater (about 3') to the wall then down the inside of the wall about 5' to the electrical box. My question is, what do I need to run the wire though (conduit etc.) from the heater to the wall and down the inside of the wall to the panel.


"If you can't fix it with duct tape it's an electrical problem"
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Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385272 Fri Nov 20 2020 06:08 AM
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Romex can't be run exposed per the National Electrical Code (NFPA 70, which Indiana has adopted), so you would need to use some sort of conduit, probably flexible metallic to a jbox in the wall. You can just run the Romex inside the wall by itself, though. If the circuit breaker is within sight of the heater it can be the required disconnect, but if not, you'll need a separate disconnect near the heater.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
klhansen #1385353 Sat Nov 21 2020 12:46 PM
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Thanks for the input. Found out my brother in-law knows a lot more than I do which is none.


"If you can't fix it with duct tape it's an electrical problem"
1949 5 Window 3100
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Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385382 Sat Nov 21 2020 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by olezippi
Thanks for the input. Found out my brother in-law knows a lot more than I do which is none.
No problem. I learned my stuff by osmosis from working with Electrical Engineers. It's always better to find someone local who has the info. thumbs_up


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385398 Sat Nov 21 2020 10:28 PM
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Master Gabster
I can do house electrical, I wired my 25x26 2 story shop but anymore I call a professional. I found a guy who is prompt and reasonable.


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I love therefore I am.

1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
1954 3100 Chevy truck in the Gallery
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Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385432 Sun Nov 22 2020 01:38 AM
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Boltergeist
I wired my 2700 sq ft house (built in three stages - 1985, 1878, 1951) - with significant upgrades/additions in 1978 and 1995.

I wired a 1300 sq ft new-construction garage.

I followed the "law" and got them all inspected by the building department - they all passed on first-inspection.

A few household wiring do-it-yourself books were quite handy
An electrical code manual/book was quite handy.

I was a much younger/poorer man.
I now hire an electrician if any job requires using a ladder.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385632 Mon Nov 23 2020 09:14 PM
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Shop Shark
I just did the same thing:
1. I ran flexible metallic wiring from the heater to the wall, then along the top of the wall, and then down to a junction box near the input panel.
2. I did put in an in-line switch (double pole, since it is 220) at the junction box.
3. The problem was to "get the metallic cable inside the wall without just cutting a hole in the sheetrock. So I used an extension junction box to terminate the metallic cable from the heater.
The extension box is mounted on top of the regular sunken junction box, so it is located on the external of the sheet rock. The external metallic cable enters there.
The on/off switch is in the extension junction box.
4. The extension junction box has an open back, so the wiring can pass from the extension box to the regular sunken box.
You probably really don't need an in-line on/off switch, since there is probably one on the heater itself. But I installed the heater/mount to the ceiling.
The wall switch is just more convenient.
5. Within the wall (from the switch and through the sunken box, I still used the metallic cable (but you can use Romex) to travel to the input panel.
Note: make sure all your grounds are connected and tight, 220 without a secure ground it can cause havoc.
don

Last edited by Donsz; Mon Nov 23 2020 09:15 PM.
Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385635 Mon Nov 23 2020 09:44 PM
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"3. The problem was to "get the metallic cable inside the wall without just cutting a hole in the sheetrock. So I used an extension junction box to terminate the metallic cable from the heater.
The extension box is mounted on top of the regular sunken junction box, so it is located on the external of the sheet rock. The external metallic cable enters there."
If you don't need a wall mounted switch, you could just use a cover plate with a single conduit hole on the sunken j-box instead of an extension box. The metallic cable connects to the cover with an adapter and wire nuts inside the j-box.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385711 Tue Nov 24 2020 09:38 AM
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Master Gabster
A mistake I made was hiring a retired electrical Engineer a friend of a friend. He spent an hour trying to figure out what I had done could work, on my dollar. I kept asking is it ok he said yes and I said just move on and finish. But no he had figure out how it worked. I should have known my friend is the same way. ohwell


Ron, The Computer Greek
I love therefore I am.

1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
1954 3100 Chevy truck in the Gallery
2017 Buick Encore
Pix on Photobucket
Re: *Residental Electrical Help*
olezippi #1385773 Tue Nov 24 2020 09:41 PM
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Ron

Sounds like you got bit by this:

Labor Rates:
Minimum $50
If you Watch $100
If you Help $150
If you worked on it first $200

frown


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
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