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Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1383694 Sat Nov 07 2020 12:35 AM
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Crusty Old Sarge
A couple of weeks ago I took one of my fenders to my Brother-in-Law, he had been wanting to get involved with the truck. I had ordered a lower patch panel some time back so I had all he would need to get started . He is not a new comer to welding panels, he repaired all of the panels on his 50' F1 and did a good job on it.

Today he sent me a picture of my fender cut and having the patch mocked up, he said he would get it welded in the next week or so. Some times help is a good thing. smile

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Passenger Side Fender.jpg (130.79 KB, 145 downloads)
Passenger Side Fender

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1383888 Sun Nov 08 2020 09:52 PM
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I try not to complain about the weather down here, I know many of your are dealing with freezing temps or knee deep snow. We had one and off rain for most of the weekend so I didn't get the Top Coat completed on the frame. I did what I could and worked between the showers.

I managed to get the springs mounted on the frame, the rear are only hand tight as I will need to lower them to mount the rearend. I replaced all the hardware and bushings, new shackle bolts and pins as well. I chose to use stainless Poly Lock nuts and stainless washers on the shackles, I wanted something that would stay tight and not rust. I think the end result looks decent too.

The next step would be to mount the front axle, hopefully this next week. I feels great to be seeing some progress after so long. grin

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Front Spring.jpg (360.61 KB, 130 downloads)
Front Spring
Frame With Springs.jpg (278.33 KB, 129 downloads)
Frame with springs
Stainless Hardware.jpg (153.76 KB, 131 downloads)
Stainless Hardware

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1384187 Wed Nov 11 2020 09:51 PM
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First of all "Happy Veterans Day" to all of My Brothers In Arms and thank you for your Service to this Country.

I spent the better part of the day with just myself, working on the 59', it's therapy for the mind and body. I tried to concentrate on getting the frame together, the rain has put a damper on my applying the Top Coat so I made the best of it and started some assembly. I used some creative engineering and my engine hoist to get things moved around and in position, it's amazing what you can come up with to get a job done. I set the rear axle in place and bolted up my traction bars, the traction bars serve as the bottom plate for the rear suspension. Having already mocked everything up this assemble went smoothly.

I re-positioned the frame and started on the front axle, again no problems at all. I still need to fabricate the lower mounts for the sway bar, this will attach to the front set of U-Bolts so I chose to leave them off for the time being. I want to be able to set up the sway bars with some weight on the chassis.

I took advantage of a break in the rain and mounted the tires, these wont stay on the frame as yet, I just wanted to get an idea of how the frame set. I took a few minutes and measured the front axel scrub line in conjunction to the lower rim lip height. As this is a Sid's 4" drop axle I my need to rethink my tire and wheel choice, that of course is for a later day.

I spent an entire morning and most of the afternoon getting the chassis to this point, a "ROLLER", after years of planning it's finally coming together. I may celebrate with a Beer and toast to my fellow Vets, just a Great Day... thumbs_up thumbs_up

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Rear Axel 4.jpg (216.57 KB, 138 downloads)
Rear Axle
Rear Axel 3.jpg (265.49 KB, 143 downloads)
Rear Axle 2
Rear Axel 5.jpg (166.28 KB, 147 downloads)
Rear Axel 5
Rear Axel 6.jpg (203.77 KB, 142 downloads)
Rear Axel 6
Traction Bars 1.jpg (211.37 KB, 133 downloads)
Traction Bars

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1384188 Wed Nov 11 2020 09:55 PM
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More Pictures from this Morning:

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Front Axle 1.jpg (188.57 KB, 133 downloads)
Front Axle
Front Axel 2.jpg (172.19 KB, 134 downloads)
Front Axel 2
Front Axel 3.jpg (200.91 KB, 128 downloads)
Front Axel 3
Axel Scrub Line.jpg (162.86 KB, 128 downloads)
Scrub Line
Rim Height.jpg (161.36 KB, 128 downloads)
Tire Rim Height

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1384189 Wed Nov 11 2020 09:57 PM
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And just one more:

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Rolling Chassis

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1384191 Wed Nov 11 2020 10:21 PM
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Those slapper bars look a little on the long side. IMHO





Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1384242 Thu Nov 12 2020 12:47 PM
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Apache1,
When I mocked everything up I added weight to the chassis to compress the springs for normal ride height. At the loaded spring height the snubbers (which aren't mounted in the picture) are positioned about 3/4" just under the front spring eye. I can adjust the snubber mounting point 1" forward or rear as may be needed once it's actually under load.

Thanks for following.


Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1384929 Tue Nov 17 2020 12:52 PM
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This past week end I was only able to spend a couple of hours on the Truck.

I mounted the engine mounts to the frame using Grade 8, 3/8" X 24 x 11/4" bolts and swedge type locking nuts. I bought all the hardware from our local Automotive Fasteners, I was surprised at how reasonable the cost was. I spent a total of $16.60 for 20 bolts, nuts and lock washers and additional 40 flat washers.

I mounted the transmission cross member and front upper shock mounts as well. Everything received a Top Coat of POR15.

This week I'm going to concentrate on get the engine painted, we have a couple of days with no rain in the forecast and the temps and humidity are right. I have a couple of days off coming the week of Thanksgiving and want to set the engine in the frame and get it fired at least to break in the cam. It's seems like a lot of work just to pull it back out again but it needs to be done at some point and I'll have the time. We'll see how this all turns out. wink

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Motor Mount Installed 1.jpg (150.34 KB, 73 downloads)
Motor Mounts
Motor Mount Installed 2.jpg (166.74 KB, 72 downloads)
Motor Mounts 2
Shock Mount Installed R.jpg (117.47 KB, 71 downloads)
Shock Mount
Shock Mount Installed L.jpg (66.95 KB, 74 downloads)
Shock Mount L
Last edited by TUTS 59; Wed Nov 25 2020 12:28 AM.

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1384932 Tue Nov 17 2020 01:04 PM
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Your progressing nicely! Good luck on getting her fired up!

What Automotive Fastener store do you have locally?

Edit: Nice store, I just looked it up on line. Wish we had one in Upstate NY! Most of my bolting I bought online or from Ace Hardware and not cheap.

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Re: 1959 Apache 31 "Ernest"
TUTS 59 #1385790 Wed Nov 25 2020 12:46 AM
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I finished prepping the engine for paint and taped up everything. Normally I would paint the engine myself if it were just a rattle can or something that I wasn't too concerned about the finish, not this time. I have a friend that has a paint booth and will do the honors for me. I have never used a HVLP paint gun and didn't want to use this engine as a learning curve. The up side of this is that I will get first hand knowledge on HVPL paint gun and set up, and get a good paint finish to boot.

I loaded the engine and stand on my trailer for a short trip in the morning to the paint shop. I figured it would be easier to paint it on the stand, there is a forklift at the shop to handle moving it around. With luck and good weather I will have a painted engine and can start final assemble this weekend.

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Engine Being Loaded.jpg (237.81 KB, 77 downloads)
Engine Being loaded
Engine Ready for the Road.jpg (167.9 KB, 74 downloads)
Engine Ready for the Road.

Craig

Come,Bleed or Blister somethings got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8, Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
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