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Spare rim/tire questions
#1380654 Tue Oct 13 2020 09:21 PM
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I am looking for some input.

I have a 51 3100 with stock rims and stock suspension.
The rims are 16", 6 lug with 5.5" lug spacing.
I don't know the width of the rim - I would have to remove the tire from the rim to measure and I can't do that for a while.
I would like to get another stock rim to replace one of mine (it's a little wonky).
Are there different size rims or is there a standard size?
If I can't find a stock rim what would be the rim and tire size can I look for in a junkyard?

I think I also want to replace my current tires with radials next year. Is there an optimal size tire that works well with the current stock rims?

I attached some pictures.

Thanks for the input guys.
JD

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1951 Chevy 3100 1/2 ton (1957 235, 4 speed, 411 rear)
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1380660 Tue Oct 13 2020 10:21 PM
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Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Standard rims on a 3100 would be 4.5 inches wide.
The optional rims were 15 inch diameter.
Most of the guys here recommend 215-85R16 radial tires as very close to the original 600-16 tires.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1380952 Fri Oct 16 2020 03:38 AM
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Older truck rims were 4". I had a set painted the same color as my cab only to find one of them was 4". I still used it with a tubeless tire just like the other 3 4 1/2" rims without any issues.

Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1380958 Fri Oct 16 2020 04:03 AM
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Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
True, up thru at least 1949 (couldn't find wheel info in the 1950 Vehicle Info Kit), base wheels were 4" wide for 1/2 tons. But the 1951 Vehicle Info Kit definitely says 4-1/2 inch width.
4-1/2 inch width wheels were an option on the earlier trucks.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1380981 Fri Oct 16 2020 11:47 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,570
ace skiver
1950 Truck Specifications [1954advance-design.com]
Page 59 Chassis Treads [wheels/tires]

3100 series had 4 wheel sizes:
16' : 6.00/16", 6.50/16", 6.70/15", and 15" (the same 15" used on 3/4 ton trucks)


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1381038 Fri Oct 16 2020 07:18 PM
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Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Saw that, but it doesn't mention WHEEL widths. IIRC 600-16 and 650-16 were mounted on 4.5" wide wheels. The earlier 4" wide wheels probably only mounted 600-16 tires, but I didn't go back and check.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1381048 Fri Oct 16 2020 08:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,570
ace skiver
The 1950 "specifications manual" is inadequate - (obviously/sadly)pages are missing.

1949 wheel specs [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
1951 wheel specs [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]

If necessary, interpolate? frown


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
tclederman #1381065 Fri Oct 16 2020 10:18 PM
Joined: May 2015
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Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
Originally Posted by tclederman
The 1950 "specifications manual" is inadequate - (obviously/sadly)pages are missing.

1949 wheel specs [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
1951 wheel specs [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]

If necessary, interpolate? frown
Agree.

But how do you interpolate between 4" wide (1949) and 4-1/2" wide (1951)? 4-1/4?? ohwell


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1381083 Sat Oct 17 2020 12:12 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,570
ace skiver
hmmm . . . . flip a coin?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: Spare rim/tire questions
JD1 #1381094 Sat Oct 17 2020 01:02 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 2,968
Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
You'd have a 50% chance of getting it right. grin


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's

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