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Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378524 Sat Sep 26 2020 01:45 PM
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Bucktruck, My plan is to locate two good used axles. During my career, I was a machinist for 27 years and sleeved many a bearing surface. The issue as Jerry pointed out is what material to use and how hard the finished sleeve is. Too hard or too soft and the bearings or axle will either wear out quickly of worse yet destroy both the axle and the housing. Unfortunately, since I retired, I no longer have access to all of the machines, heat treating equipment, engineers and metallurgists that I once had to properly accomplish this task.

If I can’t get serviceable axles, I may have to down that road.

Dusty, can you elaborate a little more on the identification (manufacturer) of that sleeve? If that sleeve is still available, it would solve all of my metallurgy concerns.


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Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378543 Sat Sep 26 2020 03:00 PM
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Wouldn't the repair sleeve in the picture require a bearing and a seal with a larger inside diameter to retain the proper axle/bearing clearance? It looks like it is simply pressed over the worn axle without doing any machining. If a sleeve was fabricated to fit over a turned-down axle, it would be necessary to do a Brinnell hardness test on the bearing area of the shaft before machining it, and try to duplicate that number with the repair sleeve. That's a little above the pay grade of the average hobby machinist, myself included! I acquired a Brinnell tester a while back, but it's in need of a serious rehab and recalibration!
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Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378544 Sat Sep 26 2020 03:14 PM
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I appears that they machined the shaft prior to shrinking on the sleeve. Compare the two. Mine is on the right.

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Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
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‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
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12v w/ Alternator
Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378551 Sat Sep 26 2020 03:45 PM
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OK, I see the reduced diameter now. Some detailed info on the manufacturer of that sleeve and its availability would be good to know!
Jerry


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The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

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Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378567 Sat Sep 26 2020 06:04 PM
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edited my post .

Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378569 Sat Sep 26 2020 06:09 PM
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Does your truck have a Buick rear axle?
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Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378570 Sat Sep 26 2020 06:11 PM
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Nope , standard chev axles

Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378586 Sat Sep 26 2020 09:34 PM
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Dusty, do you know what the shop that installed it actually did to get it to fit your Chevy?

They have a contact number and I’ll see if they can give me more info on their product. I may just have to buy a pair.


Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100
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Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378602 Sun Sep 27 2020 12:11 AM
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Even though they're listed for Buick axles, I'll bet dollars to donuts that the Buick axles are the same as Chevy, at least in the bearing race area.
Good info. The Rear Axle bearing PN for 1/2 ton Chevy trucks is NATIONAL R1502EL Their PN for the sleeve is IR 1502 (with IR standing for Inner Race?)


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Re: Pulling rear axle to stop oil leak
bucktruck #1378636 Sun Sep 27 2020 05:08 AM
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Phak1 , it was just a local machinist . He said he just used a carbide tip and power fed the cut . I think he is retired now , also we are in New Zealand smile

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