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Foot stomp starter
#1377521 Fri Sep 18 2020 04:06 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
52 chevy with 6 cylinder engine. Started having a problem with the foot stomp. The starter drive appears to hit the flywheel, not allowing the starter lever to contact the starter switch. Should the foot movement spin the starter drive to mesh with the flywheel, and then continued movement presses on the starter switch to turn the engine over? Not sure why the starter drive is not engaging the flywheel. If I press the starter button with my hand, and rotate the starter, but not the engine, I can then get it to engage properly. Maybe the bendix is worn out? Thanks.

Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1377537 Fri Sep 18 2020 05:16 PM
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I had a problem where my starter wouldn't engage the flywheel consistently. Sometimes it would work, and sometimes not. I also assumed it was the Bendix, but after taking the starter apart I found the real problem. The arm that engages the Bendix was worn out. I couldn't find where to buy a replacement one, so I improvised with skateboard bearings, which have now been working just fine for 3 years. Sorry the pictures are a little blurry frown

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Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1377575 Fri Sep 18 2020 09:04 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
Thanks Greg..Good idea there...I will take a look at the arm when I get it removed..Thanks..Tommy

Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1377603 Sat Sep 19 2020 03:01 AM
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Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1377629 Sat Sep 19 2020 01:35 PM
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Boltergeist
Rebuilders fix the worn yokes by welding and reshaping the contact patch between the yoke and the starter drive (It's NOT a "Bendix"). No need to get high-tech on a simple fix.
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Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1378029 Tue Sep 22 2020 05:26 AM
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I have just the reverse problem. The starter switch doesn't make contact always unless you really mash the pedal. I replaced the switch many years ago and hoped to adjust it a little closer but there are not slots on the switch for adjustment. So I wrapped some coat hanger around the lever where it hits the switch and that worked for some years. But somewhere along the line the coat hanger disappeared.I don't remember why. So now I just live with it but I'd like to permanently fix it. At one time the pedal was adjusted too far into the cross shaft and it hit the bell housing before the starter switch closed but that's not the problem now as far as I can tell; my x-ray vision is on the fritz. Maybe something got bent. Maybe I'll wrap some more coat hanger on it but that looks shoddy, works though.


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Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1378093 Tue Sep 22 2020 06:27 PM
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Boltergeist
Tommy, buy a single-serve soft drink in a plastic bottle, drink it, ands slip the plastic cap from the empty bottle over the switch button. If it wears out or gets lost, a replacement part is as close as your nearest convenience store!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1378109 Tue Sep 22 2020 08:50 PM
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Boltergeist
As to the OP question, 6 volt starter drives and armatures have straight splines, so the drive doesn't rotate as the lever is pushed. That was changed in mid-year 1955 with the 12 volt starter, which has angled drive lugs that rotate the gear a little as the pedal is pushed. It's possible the teeth on the drive unit and/or the flywheel have gotten worn flat, resulting in the gear jamming against the flywheel teeth instead of the gears meshing. The starter armature isn't supposed to begin turning until the gears are fully meshed. That is determined by the geometry between the shift linkage and the push button on the starter housing.
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1378518 Sat Sep 26 2020 12:38 PM
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Over the years I have had the copper contact in the mechanical switch box come loose where it is pressed into the top of unit (large copper lug), This will cause intermittent dead zone. I was just a kid so I kept stomping harder and harder. Had to replace two things then. Doc.


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Re: Foot stomp starter
tommyleea #1378527 Sat Sep 26 2020 01:48 PM
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"If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem."

It is only a stomp-starter if you have a starting system that need maintenance (mechanical and/or electrical and/or personal).

Sadly, people often post questions about their stomp starter. That confirms that either that person and/or their starting system has a problem.


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