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1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
#1367767 Sat Jul 04 2020 09:18 PM
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 96
6
Shop Shark
Love at first sight, just like the better half in my life. 1960 C20 Apache Step Side Long Bed with Beautiful eyes hooked me, and what a great back end too…… the truck!!!! I found this beauty on one of my bike rides in the hills outside Yamhill, Oregon. It was parked over twenty years ago in a seasonal wet spot.. which means that 8 months of the year it sat in 6 to 12 inches of water and rusted from the bottom up. I just snapped or cut off 90 percent of the bolts holding it together. Anyway, I am in way over my head. Purchased a good compressor, paint and sanding equipment, Hobart 140 MIG welder and new tools as needed. No help on this at the house as I know of people out here socializing while they know they have something contagious.... Not worth the risk. But I can come here for info and advice, thank you.

I have shipped the cab off to have it dipped. The cab will need numerous pieces replaced due to rust through. Picked up a nice MIG unit that I really like. Plans are to prime all the areas that will not be cut out and removed. The engine went to a rebuilder in the hills who has been doing these old engines for many years. I am not sure how many parts will get dipped and how many I will sand down to bare metal. So much interior rust on all body pieces. I cannot access many areas with rust which means dipping in acid may be only realistic alternative.

The frame will go out for sand blasting and then get powder coated. I may do the same on front suspension unit and rear end.... too soon to tell as I am still thinking this through. I appreciate all comments and any good advice. More to this story soon.

pictures. 1. Parked in the swampy field 2. On the trailer, going home 3. After first de-tox 4. taking cab off with no extra help 5. down to the frame and running gear

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Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1367929 Mon Jul 06 2020 06:10 AM
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 91
Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey
Hey there;

Welcome to the addiction...
Keep posting as you make progress, I find it keeps me motivated to get out and work. The guys here are very supportive and Knowledgeable so use that resource as much as you can.
You chose well with the MIG welder, I am in the market to buy one too and that is what the guys at the shop are recommending.

Awesome backdrop to work in BTW..

Steve


1946 Chev 1/2 ton - 6V/+ground/Bias-ply original - shake/Rattle and Roll!
1940 Chev 1/2 ton Franken/Restomod
Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1370791 Mon Jul 27 2020 01:14 AM
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 96
6
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The frame is stripped down and ready to go out for sand blasting. The cab has been dipped.... what a dilemma. So much rust and tiny holes to fix. Decided to hold off on priming the cab until I have more time to do it right. I pulled off the front end as a unit. Took it to a shop to have it pulled apart properly. I will replace every wear part in the A Arms and such as what ever did not rust has rotted. The rear axle was quite a surprise when I removed it. I had to cut the U-Bolts off to drop the axle. Picture shows that the U-bolts were actually rusting through, almost 1/3 less metal on one of them, see picture. The drag arm bolts were also rusted solid and needed to be cut off. @ hour project took several days but the axle is off. Is this when it gets easier???? ha

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Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1370831 Mon Jul 27 2020 11:14 AM
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,467
Shop Shark
glad you are saving it. I know that you know it does not get any easier. I does get better though. Get to that point where things go back together and you are on the positive side of the curve.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
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Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1375669 Thu Sep 03 2020 01:05 AM
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 96
6
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The frame is back with a beautiful powder coat finish. The engine is back as well with many upgrades to the internals. No big power boost but the better head, new pistons and such should make for a great little town runner. Also picked up the rear axle today with the differential completely gone through. Replaced all the bearings in the differential, rebuilt the brakes including new brake cylinders, new bearings and seals, bead blasted and painted the drums to boot. Luckily there was enough meat left on the drums to have them turned. Could not find a new brake kit with the springs and such.... Well, need to look at that in the future. I tucked the axle under the frame for inspiration.
The trailing arms and panhard bar were both sand blasted. I replaced the bushings in both. 60 years old means if it is a wear part I replace it. I just have no desire to drive this Beast for a month and find out I did not replace a $10 part while I had the rig torn apart. Plans are to start painting all the rear end and front end parts for the steering and suspension. Everything is completely torn apart, a true tear down on this girl. I hope to have the frame, suspension and steering completely rebuilt and put together before the rains start in September. I will get some help putting the front chassis pieces put back together and back on the frame. Maybe even get the drive train back in..... Still have not started on the 4 speed as I am not certain if I am going to have it torn apart and inspected... odds are good that will happen soon.
The toughest part is finding the dang parts. I got a lot of wrong parts from Nationally known vendors. Fortunately Six States Distributors came through on many hard to find bearings. Yep, expensive as you would expect but they were the right parts and no higher priced than some of the places that sent me the wrong parts.

pictures: I included a photo of the one man show. I lifted the rear axle out of the truck, stuffed the wheels onto it and rolled it under the shiny chassis. One picture shows a lot of the pieces to the front steering and suspension being prepped for painting.

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Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1375683 Thu Sep 03 2020 02:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,773
Moderator - The Electrical Bay and Rocky Mountain Bolters
You are doing what I should have done with my 67 K20 Suburban. But my wife has already had a cow about me just getting it running and replacing what absolutely needs to be replaced.
It will be like a new truck when you get it back together again.


Another quality post.


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Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1375840 Fri Sep 04 2020 12:24 AM
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 96
6
Shop Shark
So many options when doing a restoration, or just saving a good driver from the salvage yard. Just save em all.

Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1375875 Fri Sep 04 2020 04:52 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,727
F
Fox Offline
A teacher, but always an apprentice.
I call those “The Trenches.” Fighting with rust, fixing rust, cussing rust, blasting rust, washing it out of your pores, finding more rust, rehabilitating things that can be saved, etc, and all that takes from now until forever.

Then the dawn comes, and you bolt on shiny new/rebuilt things that takes 5 minutes of instant gratification.

One of my favourite book quotes:

“For a while they stood there, like men on the edge of a sleep where nightmare lurks, holding it off, though they know that they can only come to morning through the shadows.”-JRR Tolkien, The Two Towers.

The dawn will come; and when it does, it will shine all the brighter.

Truck looks great. Keep hammering away at it.


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Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1375931 Fri Sep 04 2020 05:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 245
D
Unconventional Thinker
Originally Posted by 60ApacheC20
The frame is stripped down and ready to go out for sand blasting. The cab has been dipped.... what a dilemma. So much rust and tiny holes to fix. Decided to hold off on priming the cab until I have more time to do it right. I pulled off the front end as a unit. Took it to a shop to have it pulled apart properly. I will replace every wear part in the A Arms and such as what ever did not rust has rotted. The rear axle was quite a surprise when I removed it. I had to cut the U-Bolts off to drop the axle. Picture shows that the U-bolts were actually rusting through, almost 1/3 less metal on one of them, see picture. The drag arm bolts were also rusted solid and needed to be cut off. @ hour project took several days but the axle is off. Is this when it gets easier???? ha

When I got my Dana 60 axle back in '91, I was about 20 minutes too late to use the on-site mechanic's tools at the gas station where it was located, and didn't have anything in my toolbox to turn the nuts. It was only half the frame, so that made it a little easier, but all I had was a few hacksaw blades in my toolbox, so I had to cut the U-Bolts to get that axle home. That was FUN!...lol...


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1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
Re: 1960 C20 Swamp Thing restoration
60ApacheC20 #1375933 Fri Sep 04 2020 05:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 245
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Unconventional Thinker
Great progress thus far!


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1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
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1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
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