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Re: 58 Apache Dump - Keep it old or make it new(ish)
Bill P #1374330 Fri Aug 21 2020 08:44 PM
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Disregard, i was thinking 4wd solid axle


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Re: 58 Apache Dump - Keep it old or make it new(ish)
Bill P #1374666 Mon Aug 24 2020 04:05 PM
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I believe you have Bendix brakes and that means parts are available. In my experience the 3800s had plenty of brakes. I finally put a hydrovac on mine when I started pulling a trailer so I wouldn't have to use both feet on the brake pedal. My front ones do overheat loaded with repeated stops from 60MPH on one stretch of road with a bunch of stop lights but then the front drums are getting thin. Otherwise I've had no braking problems in the Western mountains with a camper at 9,000 gross. I think you can get a disc kit for both single and dual wheel models for a little over $500. I'm thinking about it.

You could re-power to a big V8. By 58 they were putting 348s and 322 Buick V8s in them. Then by 62 a 409 was an option. All should be a near bolt in swap. You'd be hard pressed to find a 409 but you could put in any big-block. So you have lots of options for power and brakes.


51 3800 PU, 55 235 (w/cam, headers, 2 carbs, MSD ign.), SM420 & Brown-Lipe 6231A 3spd aux. trans, stock axles & brakes. Owned since 1971.
Re: 58 Apache Dump - Keep it old or make it new(ish)
Bill P #1374713 Mon Aug 24 2020 08:53 PM
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I'll attempt to rebuild the brakes, starting with the drivers side rear and go from there. See what presents itself.
Thank you all for your input


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Re: 58 Apache Dump - Keep it old or make it new(ish)
1Ton_tommy #1375932 Fri Sep 04 2020 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Ton_tommy
I believe you have Bendix brakes and that means parts are available. In my experience the 3800s had plenty of brakes. I finally put a hydrovac on mine when I started pulling a trailer so I wouldn't have to use both feet on the brake pedal. My front ones do overheat loaded with repeated stops from 60MPH on one stretch of road with a bunch of stop lights but then the front drums are getting thin. Otherwise I've had no braking problems in the Western mountains with a camper at 9,000 gross. I think you can get a disc kit for both single and dual wheel models for a little over $500. I'm thinking about it.

You could re-power to a big V8. By 58 they were putting 348s and 322 Buick V8s in them. Then by 62 a 409 was an option. All should be a near bolt in swap. You'd be hard pressed to find a 409 but you could put in any big-block. So you have lots of options for power and brakes.

Interesting anecdotal info, thanks. I've got a '54 3600 I plan on doing some towing with (not cross country, but cross-Wisconsin at least) and have been curious what the comfortable upper limit is for towing. Most of my towing is motorcycles or ATVs so it's rare I see north of 3000lbs total trailer weight, but it's good to hear a similar vintage truck has no issue with more than twice that.

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