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Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373644 Sun Aug 16 2020 08:40 PM
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I dug up an HEI (not Tom Langdon's but another) I had modified from another Chevy 6 to fit the 235. It was removed running and cleaned up but the floating mount was not altered. You can see it and the measurements below. Total length from flange to tip...4 7/8", bottom of flange to bottom of toothed part of gear...2 3/4" and bottom of flange to very bottom of driven gear...3 3/16".

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Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373646 Sun Aug 16 2020 08:44 PM
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There might be, but I don't know about that. I remember pre-54 had a forged camshaft and used a different gear. the gear on the camshaft was a bit more narrow as I recall. Then in 1954 I think they went to a wider gear and that's what I'm assuming you have. The width of the gear on mine (a 1959) is about 5/8" as I recall.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373648 Sun Aug 16 2020 08:46 PM
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Shop Shark
But I don't believe Tom's site differentiates between car/truck engine. I'll go look and see what I can tell.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373649 Sun Aug 16 2020 08:48 PM
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Well, they only sell one distributor. So logic says it's not them. The only option is a steel gear for pre 1954. Did you buy the distributor yourself? Has anyone replaced the oil pump?
There online pic shows a gasket/spacer and an Oring.
Here are my guesses:
1. You are NOT in the slot
2. Someone has been playing with the Langdon distributor
3. It's a home made "Langdon" copy
4. It's all together the wrong Dizzy
5. Most of these guesses will be wrong if you yourself actually ordered it from Langdon. Seems like if you did you would have called or emailed them.
6. I see your hobby is "gears" hmmmmm, did you play with this dizzy?


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Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373650 Sun Aug 16 2020 09:07 PM
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Two other thoughts: the width of the driven gear in both the stock distributor and the HEI distributor is 5/8". Is yours for some reason different? I can't imagine it would be, but probably need to know. Also are you certain the bottom of the gear is hitting the internal flange? Can you see down into the oil pump connection? Is there any way something...anything...could have dropped into that slot? Maybe if you could use a bamboo skewer to measure from the bottom of that slot to the top of the block where the distributor flange will sit?


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373653 Sun Aug 16 2020 09:25 PM
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T
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Wrench Fetcher
Thanks for the responses. This forum is the best. I've been lurking for 3 years. Could not have built my truck with out it.


A 1/4" spacer and a gasket would do it. Bartamos, where can I find the pictures you are talking about?

Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373661 Sun Aug 16 2020 10:00 PM
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J
Shop Shark
Yes, but that would require some machine tools to make, and I'm not altogether convinced the distributor should be doing this. I think he was just referring to the pictures on Tom Langdon's web pages.

Before I made a 1/4 inch spacer I would do my best to determine the distance from the bottom of the oil pump shaft up to the mounting surface of the block...


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373677 Sun Aug 16 2020 10:59 PM
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tfisher Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
It is a Langdon stovebolt mini HEI distributor purchased recently from Jim Carter. I am sure it has not been modified, but it appeared to be an open box. It came with an 1/8" thick o-ring, but did not come with a spacer or gasket.

Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373684 Sun Aug 16 2020 11:11 PM
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J
Shop Shark
Oh, I thought you bought it from Tom directly. That would have helped in this case, but you could call Tom and ask him, I suppose. I think it should had a flat round gasket, too. But that gasket is only about 1/16" thick or less. Here is a link to Tom's website:

http://www.langdonsstovebolt.com/store/online-catalog/#!/Stovebolt-Mini-HEI-for-GM-216-235-261-&-GMC/p/1222040/category=18665949


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: HEI installation problem
tfisher #1373687 Sun Aug 16 2020 11:21 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
I can tell from the dirt line that my stock dist had a 1/8" gap between the block and the shoulder on the dist, but it didn't matter because it had an internal o-ring and the retaining bolt did not push the dist down. It just kept it from rotating.

l'll check with Langdon tomorrow about this gap I have.


Thanks again for all the good ideas.

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