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Door Glass
#1372112 Tue Aug 04 2020 10:31 PM
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Aaron Offline OP
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I am sure there is a thread or tech tip somewhere that I am missing but hopefully someone can point me in the right direction; had no luck with my own searching skills.

I am replacing glass on my '48 3800 and not really understanding the glass setting tape procedure. Can someone walk me through it? Do I need adhesive of some sort? I ordered a kit from Chevs of the 40s and have two thicknesses; which thickness goes where?


Aaron V.
1948 Chevrolet 3800 216/4-spd
1979 Chevrolet C30 Ramp Truck 454/TH-400
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Re: Door Glass
Aaron #1372113 Tue Aug 04 2020 10:43 PM
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hi Aaron,
i have also seen that special tape for sale and considered getting it, but had similar questions as you did, then i decided it was probably overkill for my tastes
i used regular black friction tape, aka hockey stick tape and a dab of the same black RTV silicone i used to seal up the windshield rubber.
start with one layer, if you want it tighter put a second layer,
once it all together trim off extra

start by dry fitting the glass into the metal, make sure it fits the curves and all so that you don't have surprises, get a feel for how much gap you need to fill
decide if you want to start with 1 or 2 layers
stick the tape onto the glass
fit the taped up glass into the metal, if it looks like it will be nice and snug then take it out, put on a bit of that black rtv silicone and slide it back in
the silicone was just to try to keep the water out of the friction tape, maybe that wasn't needed

also pro tip, cover the glass with painters tape first, makes cleaning up the smeared silicone way easier, but if you have new glass everything can be cleaned off of it
-s

Re: Door Glass
Aaron #1372146 Wed Aug 05 2020 01:38 AM
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Glass setting tape works on friction. That's all you need. Just decide on which thickness tape you need for your application.

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Re: Door Glass
Aaron #1372174 Wed Aug 05 2020 11:56 AM
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Aaron, please post the part number of the glass setting tape that you bought from Chevs of the 40s.

If it is original style tape, after it is fitted in place it gets "set" by "drizzling" a little light oil on its outside edges of the tape. This expands the soapstone impregnated tape and "sets" it so that the glass does not move. It also seals thge window from from leaking water.

Are there ID marks on the glass? If so, they are most likely original thickness glass.

If there are no ID markings on the glass, the glass might be replacement glass. Replacement glass might/might-not be original thickness. If the glass is not original thickness, you might need different thickness glass-setting tape. Several vendors sell different thicknesses/sizes of the original style tape.

FYI: old/original glass that is set in old/original-style setting tape can be easily removed using a thinner (I think that procedure is described in the Shop Manual). This is one of the advantages of using original style setting tape; and, this is one reason for following/using the original technique/parts/procedures.


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Re: Door Glass
Aaron #1372202 Wed Aug 05 2020 06:44 PM
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Aaron Offline OP
Wrench Fetcher
P/N from Chevs was 60395450 and the glass is replacement glass from LMC (all of my original glass was shattered or missing when I got the truck).

Sounds like this is more of a 'check and (educated) guess and check' situation as far as thicknesses, that gives me some good next steps. Thanks for all of the info, everyone!


Aaron V.
1948 Chevrolet 3800 216/4-spd
1979 Chevrolet C30 Ramp Truck 454/TH-400
1995 Jeep Cherokee 4.0/5-spd
1970 Ford F100 390/4-spd
1973 Ford Maverick 302/C4
2004 Honda Shadow 1100

"While driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and instinctively swerved to avoid it…thanks Mario Kart."
Re: Door Glass
tclederman #1372258 Thu Aug 06 2020 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tclederman
Aaron, please post the part number of the glass setting tape that you bought from Chevs of the 40s.

If it is original style tape, after it is fitted in place it gets "set" by "drizzling" a little light oil on its outside edges of the tape. This expands the soapstone impregnated tape and "sets" it so that the glass does not move. It also seals thge window from from leaking water.

Are there ID marks on the glass? If so, they are most likely original thickness glass.

If there are no ID markings on the glass, the glass might be replacement glass. Replacement glass might/might-not be original thickness. If the glass is not original thickness, you might need different thickness glass-setting tape. Several vendors sell different thicknesses/sizes of the original style tape.

FYI: old/original glass that is set in old/original-style setting tape can be easily removed using a thinner (I think that procedure is described in the Shop Manual). This is one of the advantages of using original style setting tape; and, this is one reason for following/using the original technique/parts/procedures.
That thinner which you allude to from the Manual is gasoline.

Re: Door Glass
Aaron #1372271 Thu Aug 06 2020 06:02 AM
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Re: Door Glass
Aaron #1372523 Sat Aug 08 2020 02:37 AM
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Using glass setting tape can be intimidating if you've not done it before. To get the right thickness measure the glass thickness, measure the width of the channel, subtract the glass thickness from the thickness of the channel and divide that number by 2. That is the thickness of the setting tape that you will need. I've had good luck with setting tape from Classic parts. There are several you-tube "how to" videos on the subject. I've done new glass on both vent windows of my 1954 3600. If I can do it, anyone can.


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Re: Door Glass
Aaron #1372533 Sat Aug 08 2020 05:41 AM
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Shop Shark
Fill the channel with black silicone, set the window in, let it cure, trim with a razor blade.
Keep it simple!

Re: Door Glass
delux54panel #1372596 Sun Aug 09 2020 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by delux54panel
Fill the channel with black silicone, set the window in, let it cure, trim with a razor blade.
Keep it simple!
I use Permatex Ultra-black gasket maker. I guess some people call it silicone. I don't no if it is, but I do know that it holds door glass very well.
It is still possible to remove the glass and sealant should you break the glass in the future.

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