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Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1368979 Mon Jul 13 2020 10:36 PM
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Workshop Owner
Looks like your kicking butt. thumbs_up The hood looks to be in really nice shape.

John


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Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1369065 Tue Jul 14 2020 03:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,973
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Congrats for finding a great old truck! And welcome to the Madness. Enjoy.


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Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1369225 Wed Jul 15 2020 07:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 27
T
Wrench Fetcher
Thank you for all the welcomes!
Spent the last few evenings sorting out the garage, there are a lot of parts in a truck! They seem to take up a lot of space when not in their original location too.
I'm back around to the interior, working on getting the last of the mouse remnants out of the seats. Stripped the original covers off the seats (maroon), the horse hair also got ditched.
Unfortunately the wire strung through the burlap was not salvageable. What's anyone done to replace it?
The seat frame is in pretty good shape, the springs are all there, none of them are broken. The wire around the top perimeter is broken, I will likely try and braze that back together. The support that goes from the edges to the side, is also broken (and partially missing) and will get replaced.
The sliding mechanism was in pretty good condition, two stuck pulleys, that I was able to free. The cables disintegrated where the mouse nests had been sitting on them, but should be easy enough to re-thread, once I find some suitable steel cable/rope.
I'm thinking of trying to order up one of the seat cover kits from Jim Carter.
As for the body work, I have a guy who does body work lined up to come over and give me some direction as to how best approach the repairs.
I am still searching for either a shop that does babbit work, or another engine (235/261). If anyone has a line on one, let me know. I'm in Saskatchewan.


1950 Chevrolet Model 1314
Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1369625 Sat Jul 18 2020 03:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 27
T
Wrench Fetcher
Spent a few evenings in the shop chipping away at the truck.
Have the pistons out of the block, and what do you know? It wasn't a bad bearing or babbit that was preventing this old engine from running! All the lifters are froze in place from rust. So Good news, bad news? Ha.
I'll be calling around to see if there is a shop in town that has done insert bearing conversions for the connecting rods, and see if I can get this old 216 running again!
I also worked on the seats this week, getting the slides to function once again. Evaporust for all the small parts, fresh paint, and mostly reassembled. Have to get some more steel cable/rope to finish it up. I'm also missing some nuts/washers/lockwashers to re-install back in the truck, but I have some time before the cab is ready for the seat...


1950 Chevrolet Model 1314
Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1369884 Mon Jul 20 2020 08:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 27
T
Wrench Fetcher
Looking for some advice on engines. I would like to keep a straight six in the truck. The 216 needs rebuilding. I have found a 235, a 261 out of a '62 pontiac car that needs rebuilding, or a machined 261 in boxes. Should I consider replacing the 216, or stick with it seeing how all my current options need a date with a machine shop?


1950 Chevrolet Model 1314
Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1369886 Mon Jul 20 2020 08:55 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,487
ace skiver
Trevor,

There is some engine-swap information in the Tech Tips.

The main adaptations/changes might be the front motor mount and the relocation of the an old-style water pump (and, maybe the harmonic balancer). You might have to be “creative” in attaching the accelerator and choke cables.

If the 216 runs, you might want to keep it in the truck.


Tim
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1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1369888 Mon Jul 20 2020 09:06 PM
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 27
T
Wrench Fetcher
Hi Tim!

Thank you for the response. The 216 does not run. It's seized up tight.

I will continue reading the tech tips provided!


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Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1369904 Mon Jul 20 2020 10:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,487
ace skiver
The 54/55st truck 235/261 would not need adaptation.

If you can find a good 261, it is noticeably stronger than a 235.

Note that many/most car 235s have hydraulic lifters. This is not a “problem”, just something to be aware of (when doing a tune-up).

Good luck, Trevor

Keep asking questions.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1371629 Sat Aug 01 2020 03:21 PM
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 27
T
Wrench Fetcher
Haven't spent much time working on the truck the past bit.
I have the engine out, and apart. Only the lifters and cam are left in the block (the lifters are seized). Contemplating taking it to a machine shop to have them clean it up, and assess to see if it would be a candidate for a rebuild.
The flywheel is toast, any idea where a person could source another one?
Also, check out that front axle! I guess one of the previous owners wanted a "heavy duty" option...

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Re: 1950 Chevy Model 1314
Trevor J #1371724 Sun Aug 02 2020 12:50 AM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,031
Master Gabster
You have the Canadian 216 with the short side cover. If you have a crack in the head, those heads are hard to find. So that may be something to think about. I have the same motor and it took me several years to find a replacement head.

I think you have a good old truck there. You can buy a lot more of the running gear for the 1/2 ton than you can for the 1 Ton so that is a good thing.


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