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235 won't start
#1367389 Thu Jul 02 2020 12:55 AM
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Shop Shark
This for me is a very big UHH O! Some of you may remember my problems by putting Sea Foam into my almost pristine engine. It all started with bad gas. I put 4 gal. white gas in what I thought was an empty gas tank. Started engine which had not been started for 6 weeks. Was missing badly but would run smoother under acceleration. It's on a frame rack so that I can polish bottom of frame. Ran even worse has an o.e.m. rebuilt professionally running smooth model "B". Drained gas tank again with full spead bottom pump. Don't want to take carb off unless last resort. But wait there is more! Fuel pressure good, spark strong, timing perfect, tried full choke and accelerator full throttle, 1180 amp fully charged in series 6/12 system. One slight pop then complete saturation of carb. I have worked on complex engines racing and otherwise. The 235 is one of the simplest of engines but my poor old boy is unwell. It has me completely at a loss, good compression. Doc


Currently making 1954 3100 better than new
Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1367400 Thu Jul 02 2020 02:43 AM
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The common denominator in this situation is Sea Foam. Good product bad product, who knows but obviously it loosened something in the fuel system and moved that something into the lines and ultimately into the filter or carburetor. Suck it up and pull the carburetor for a good interior inspection. Let the watering begin!šŸ› 


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Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1367849 Sun Jul 05 2020 04:04 PM
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I can always depend on great advice from you, tcleaderman and Hotrod Lincoln. The problem is solved. I appreciate you guys so much. And of course all the other Stovebolt folks. Doc


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Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1367851 Sun Jul 05 2020 04:11 PM
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Shop Shark
What was the solution if I may be so bold to ask?


Mike
Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1367865 Sun Jul 05 2020 06:19 PM
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Yeah Doc, tell us what you found!


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Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1367961 Mon Jul 06 2020 03:02 PM
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Uhhh, Does Stovebolt have A STUPID OF THE MONTH award? May be better for me if we have a stupid of the year award. Took Y'alls great advice but, did what Jerry told me to do and just suck it up and pull carb. off. I have a throttle cable which is attached correctly. Started to unscrew the mounting plate and noticed the cotter pin from the accelerator rod came loose. Due to the way the choke, accelerator, and accelerator cable are bunched together it made the accelerator peddle feel like it was attached. I need a better shop light and better vision. What can I say? Apparently when I was pouring the Sea Foam into carb at fast idle the pin dropped out, thought I was being really fancy by putting a clip pin in and not the correct thing a cotter pin. I don't remember Dad having these problems at 71. Ed


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Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1368069 Tue Jul 07 2020 02:12 AM
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Well, at least it wasn't the distributor rotor which you left on the work bench after you set the points.

I know a pretty well known, long time member who has done that, and to his credit, almost admitted it. One of those, "Don't ask me how I know.' deals.
He who claims that they have not done that is either a liar or is wasting too much time being too anal retentive. smile

Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1368093 Tue Jul 07 2020 12:35 PM
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Thank you, see there is forgiveness. Doc. Understood

Last edited by Doc.Hall; Tue Jul 07 2020 12:53 PM. Reason: grammer

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Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1368112 Tue Jul 07 2020 03:12 PM
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No, no, no, you are looking at it all wrong. The positive life spin is that you offered us all a valuable teaching moment reminding us all to check the low hanging fruit first!


Mike
Re: 235 won't start
Doc.Hall #1368254 Wed Jul 08 2020 08:33 PM
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One of my college buddies who made his pocket change hustling pool used to say "Shoot the sitting ducks first before you try a 3-rail bank shot!" Yes, I have forgotten to replace a rotor, on more than one occasion, but the one that really ate my lunch was an engine that would only run if one spark plug was removed, and it didn't matter which one!
Jerry


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