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engine removal, 235 I6
#1366740 Sun Jun 28 2020 12:30 AM
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Wrench Fetcher
Well, the engine is stripped down, tranny to come off shortly. Then, how do I attach the chain for the engine hoist to pick it up? This is a 1960 Apache C20, 235 I6. Just want to make sure and not drop it or use a short hole and strip it out, etc....

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Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366750 Sun Jun 28 2020 01:19 AM
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Shop Shark
The factory recommendation was to use two eye bolts (part of their tool kit #J-4536-A)) replacing two head bolts (this Procedure [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com] is from p. 6-21 of the '55 Chevy 2nd Series Truck Shop Manual, but it still applies). Figure 27 will help ID the head bolts they suggested for balance. There are other attachment points that work, also. But with a bare chassis, I would probably use two slings underneath the engine to raise it. Dry weight of the engine with bell housing, no transmission, is just over 600 #.

Doug

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Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366761 Sun Jun 28 2020 01:42 AM
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Boltergeist
If the rocker arms are removed, use two of the rocker stand holes with Grade 5 or better 3/6-16 bolts as lift points. Bolt a chain to the #2 and #4 rocker stand points and the engine and bellhousing assembly should lift pretty close to level. There's also a lot less danger of damaging rockers and pushrods if they're out of the way before you start lifting.
Jerry


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Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366803 Sun Jun 28 2020 12:54 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
I will be leaving the engine intact. Guess I will go with the sling. Plan is to remove transmission and bellhousing before engine. thanks, really good procedure for lifting engine.

Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366806 Sun Jun 28 2020 01:23 PM
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ace skiver
I have also used the technique that Jerry describes.

As shown/described in the Shop Manual - no problems. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
(the written procedure/instructions start one page earlier)


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- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366815 Sun Jun 28 2020 02:24 PM
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Boltergeist
Good luck with removing the bellhousing.
Jerry


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Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366897 Mon Jun 29 2020 12:43 AM
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Shop Shark
Another option on engine removal is to use the two valve cover bolts, with a spreader bar. 270 shown.

Ed

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Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366908 Mon Jun 29 2020 01:18 AM
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I will give this a try right after the tranny pull, thanks all...

Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1366996 Mon Jun 29 2020 03:46 PM
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Shop Shark
I'm puzzled by the following order of events from the shop manual.

1. Remove engine, clutch and transmission as a unit.
2. Mount engine in the stand.
3. Remove transmission.

What kind of stand did they use to hold the engine with clutch and transmission still attached. Was it some kind of cradle? Am I missing something?

Last edited by Wally / Montana; Mon Jun 29 2020 03:47 PM.

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Re: engine removal, 235 I6
60ApacheC20 #1367001 Mon Jun 29 2020 04:41 PM
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Shop Shark
A cradle that picks up the rear, side engine mounts and the front mount will do it, however, you will loose the rear mounts when you remove the bellhousing. Then you can make a cradle of 2 X 10's or so to pick up the pan rails, but then you cannot remove the pan. So when you remove the bellhousing and are suspending the engine from the valve cover bolts, etc., find a standard rotating engine mount that is designed for it and pick up some of the rear block bolts that held the bellhousing on. Then you can rotate the engine 360 degrees to work on it. It is best to get one with four wheels, and is long enough for a 6 cyl. engine. Look around for a used one, just make sure it is strong enough.

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
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