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Why So Tight? A minor rant.
#1364658 Fri Jun 12 2020 08:07 PM
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Is it really necessary to fasten screws down so that they feel like they're welded in? I'm working on door latch problems and need to adjust the striker plate in the door frame that's held on with 4 screws. Easy job, right? Not so fast.

The slots in the screw are 1/8" wide and very shallow, and kind of chewed up from someone who worked on them before. I soaked them as much as possible though I don't think much of the penetrant got to the threads. Using the biggest screwdriver I have, 18" long with a 3/8" square shaft, I put my vice grips on for added leverage and tried to loosen the screws. I can watch the shaft start to twist before I can't hold it in the groove any longer. It wasn't necessary to make them so tight and turns a straightforward 1 minute job into a small project. A little dab of anti-seize would have worked wonders.

Here's my promise to the next guy who owns my truck: anything I've taken off and put back on will be able to be taken off again without getting your blood pressure up, mangling the fasteners or causing bad language. You're welcome.

Re: Why So Tight? A minor rant.
Eureka Jim #1364660 Fri Jun 12 2020 08:11 PM
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Mine kept coming loose so I used some blue Loctite. That solved the problem.


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Re: Why So Tight? A minor rant.
Eureka Jim #1364661 Fri Jun 12 2020 08:25 PM
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So, if we had added your problem to mine and divided by 2 neither one of us would have had a problem?

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Eureka Jim #1364663 Fri Jun 12 2020 08:29 PM
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Eureka Jim #1364665 Fri Jun 12 2020 08:48 PM
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I had to make my own steel threaded plates to slide into the pillar because mine were missing on one side. The other one i had robbed from another truck and i had to cherry it up with a torch to get them to move.

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Eureka Jim #1364667 Fri Jun 12 2020 09:11 PM
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While we're ranting... I'd like to curse at slotted head screws in general.
I can forgive Chevy for the clutch heads... they wouldn't be so bad if those screwdrivers actually existed.

Slotted heads though... anything but those! Fortunately not found too often on my chevy.
Some things are really bad: like outlet covers and especially firearms who's screws are always slotted.
Terrible!

Last edited by Ott3r; Fri Jun 12 2020 09:12 PM.

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Re: Why So Tight? A minor rant.
Eureka Jim #1364669 Fri Jun 12 2020 09:14 PM
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Ott3r, clutch head drivers and clutch head bits are available at most any tool store. NAPA has quality drivers.


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Re: Why So Tight? A minor rant.
Justhorsenround #1364700 Sat Jun 13 2020 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Justhorsenround
Ott3r, clutch head drivers and clutch head bits are available at most any tool store. NAPA has quality drivers.
Agree 100%. Clutch head drivers are pretty much available.


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Re: Why So Tight? A minor rant.
truckernix #1364712 Sat Jun 13 2020 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by truckernix
Mine kept coming loose so I used some blue Loctite. That solved the problem.
Hence the reason most are so tight. I do agree the sloted screws can be a royal PITA. Your best chance is to find a screw driver that is as wide as the slot and the tip of which is in perfect condition, or better yet a good quality impact driver and a heavy hammer.


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Re: Why So Tight? A minor rant.
Eureka Jim #1364719 Sat Jun 13 2020 03:53 AM
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On my guns I ONLY use case hardened gun screwdrivers. Good gunsmith screw driver set cost about $110 for six. Never use anything else, gun screws are very hard. To get difficult screws or bolts off our Stovebolts always apply Kroil Oil or Blaster and let set for a day. Use a hammer impact screwdriver with a Brass hammer. It will come off. Patience, patience.
justhoseround and Eureka jim have the right attitude .Doc

Last edited by Doc.Hall; Sat Jun 13 2020 04:07 AM. Reason: additional info

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