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235 headers
#1359515 Sun May 10 2020 12:51 PM
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looking to install headers on my 235, is there any issue not putting the heat tubes on? any recommendations on header types? see headers on e bay as low as 80? thoughts? advice?

Re: 235 headers
rad #1359526 Sun May 10 2020 01:17 PM
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I have 2 trucks a 49 and 51 5 window, both have 1954 235 engines. Got Fenton headers from Joe Mendola 520-235 2659 AZ time. Have Langdons 32/36 carb on both with heat from intake manifold. Go to langdons site and read his tech tips--Good Luck Bill

Re: 235 headers
rad #1359544 Sun May 10 2020 02:50 PM
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What kind of racing are you doing? Headers on a street machine are as useless as a screen door in a submarine!
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Re: 235 headers
Hotrod Lincoln #1359551 Sun May 10 2020 03:07 PM
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not going for racing...my original manifold has been butchered by someone doing duel exhaust, just considering options or looking for an original exhaust manifold

Re: 235 headers
rad #1359555 Sun May 10 2020 03:16 PM
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There should be plenty of original exhaust manifolds available from people who took the P.T. Barnum sucker bait and installed headers. Try putting an ad in the swap meet forum.
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Re: 235 headers
rad #1359562 Sun May 10 2020 03:40 PM
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rad, you posted your question in the proper forum. No one should poo poo any custom ideas in this forum except for an obvious safety issue. Hotrodding or customizing these trucks/engines is what this forum is about. Sometimes folks get carried away with originality and forget what Forum they are in. Dual carburetors and dual exhaust are just plain cool eye candy even if they provide little performance improvement. To answer your question, hook up heat if you can. The engine will operate more closely to its designed purpose. Ignore the naysayers and make your truck your own not what somebody else wants it to be.🛠


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Re: 235 headers
Justhorsenround #1359564 Sun May 10 2020 03:45 PM
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Thanks I agree, didn't want to start a back and forth but making an engine breath better is fairly basic.

Re: 235 headers
rad #1359598 Sun May 10 2020 05:53 PM
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Yeah, This seems to be a common problem.


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Re: 235 headers
rad #1359713 Mon May 11 2020 02:13 AM
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Yes. I agree. Do not let common sense, reasoning, and logic get in the way of one's dream of appearing cool.
If it were me, and I wanted to have better exhaust flow, I would try to repair the modified original manifold to function as a dual exhaust.
There is a real benefit to the original design of the heat flapper box during cold operation, as well as for some heating of the intake after reaching full operating temperature. Neither of these functions can be duplicated with pipes coming from a header to the intake.

Re: 235 headers
rad #1360053 Wed May 13 2020 01:40 AM
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If you want to install the fentons, or do a home made split manifold out of what you have, go to it! It’s a fun project. Tubes from the exhaust to the bottom of the intake, take a pass, they don’t work all that well. Run hot water to the bottom of the intake. Langdon has a plate that might fit a stock intake, otherwise just make one up with two fittings for inlet and outlet hot water. Tom has some other parts to help with this, a spacer for in between the therm housing and the head with a fitting for hot water, or you can use a 50s era gmc lower therm housing. Some come with a port on the driver side already drilled and tapped, others, just the boss so you drill and tap for the hot water.

Using the stock manifold, as mentioned above, has some great benefits. Primarily the use of the stock heat riser. So you split the manifold, weld on a cap one each end, install an outlet on the part that has no outlet, and you have true split manifold with factory heat riser.

Fenton use to make a split manifold with a heat riser but they are pretty rare.

You can also simply add a second outlet onto the stock manifold and get dual exhaust and same deal, you get to keep the stock heat riser.

Clifford performance also makes a set of true tube headers. Want to hear how they sound on a 235 chevy:

https://youtu.be/jYeeUfxGwlY

You can put a set of electric cutouts on those headers and open them up if you felt in the mood.

I have run headers on all of my 235 and 261 motors for over 40 years. Go ahead, have some fun!

Last edited by Dragsix; Wed May 13 2020 01:44 AM.

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