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New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
#1345241 Thu Feb 06 2020 02:43 PM
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Hi All,
I upgraded my tie-rod and put new ends on my 48 1/2T. Should the tie-rod-end threads point down, putting the tie-rod higher, or should it come up from the bottom?
I almost feel like I shouldn't have to ask this question... smile

Thanks
Steve

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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345245 Thu Feb 06 2020 03:02 PM
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My original steering arms have the ball pointIng up with the tie rod on top.

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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345251 Thu Feb 06 2020 03:14 PM
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Thanks Phil, Initially I was going to install with the tie-rod being higher, and the ball threads pointing down (my left pic), but I had someone think it should come up from the bottom (not a stove-bolt guy). This is why I posted...thanks


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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345260 Thu Feb 06 2020 03:49 PM
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If your modern design tie rod ends have tapered shanks, have you reamed the holes in the steering arms to match the taper? Putting a tapered shank in a straight hole isn't going to work at all.

One old-timer I knew who had apprenticed as a blacksmith before becoming an auto mechanic used to convert those steering arms by getting the end of the arm red hot with a rosebud torch and driving a big tapered punch into the hole. No, I wouldn't recommend trying that approach!
Jerry



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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345294 Thu Feb 06 2020 05:57 PM
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Jerry, The modern T/R ends are straight and not tapered.It fits good in the pressed hole.
Steve


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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345320 Thu Feb 06 2020 08:25 PM
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The answer to your question is whether the tie rod installed on top will have enough clearance when the springs are compressed to the bump stops. Also if you're comfortable with the road clearance with the tie rod mounted below the steering arms. One consideration is whether in the extremely remote chance that the cotter pin comes out and the nut loosens up that gravity will make the tie rod fall off on the road. Mounted on top, gravity would work in your favor, on the bottom, not so much. (I did say extremely remote.)


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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345336 Thu Feb 06 2020 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioSteve
It fits good in the pressed hole.


As good as one that's pressed in and hot riveted? I don't think I'd want to bet my life on something like that if it's got even a little bit of a loose fit.
Jerry


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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345435 Fri Feb 07 2020 05:32 PM
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Jerry, I'm sure your correct. I was just asked a question about a tapper and answered. My original question was on orientation of application for others with experience using the new T/R ends...

Kevin - thanks. My thoughts on the top down direction was exactly the same thoughts you mentioned. I do have spring/bumper clearance too.

Steve


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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345486 Fri Feb 07 2020 09:05 PM
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The threads should point down. The ball inside the new tie-rod will be above the steering arm just like the original ball stud

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Re: New Tie rod end (Up or Down?)
OhioSteve #1345556 Sat Feb 08 2020 02:29 AM
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Thank You Fiddlerpin!!


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