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Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1341633 Sun Jan 12 2020 12:04 AM
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EdPruss Offline
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Change gears in speedo reducer.

Ed


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Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1341642 Sun Jan 12 2020 12:44 AM
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52Carl Offline
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My bet is that those speedometers read kilometers per hour on the needle, but miles on the odometer, which means that nothing under that KPH dial is different than the speedometers which we have with MPH and miles like Jesus did in the Bible.
Carl

Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1341927 Mon Jan 13 2020 07:03 PM
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2ManyTrucks Offline OP
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the dial face cleaned up reasonably well, i'm gonna use it as is, it will match the other aged instruments in my truck
the photos attached are "cleaned.jpg" this is the result of 48 hr room temperature soak in Evaporust cleaner, then gently rinse with cold water and massage any particles off with fingers only not even a brush.
then it air dried well for a couple days
"coated.jpg" is after i applied a thin coat of Rustoleum satin clear to help stabilize the surface to lock everything in place and prevent new rust
the back side will get a new coat of plain white

i'm gonna definitely check out the odometer later to compare to the 0-90 MPH cluster, i suspect it will be in miles
but i'm curious now to see if i could find appropriate gears to turn it into a KPH odometer. gonna put a pin in that idea

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Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1341932 Mon Jan 13 2020 07:27 PM
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3B Offline
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Hy 2ManyTrucks, back when Canada metrified there were speedometer adapters being sold to make our speedometers read in Kilometers per hour rather than miles per hour. I bought a couple of them, but I only installed one, I have another brand new one around here somewhere.

Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1341942 Mon Jan 13 2020 07:59 PM
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1Ton_tommy Offline
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Old British motorcycles, of which I own several, used Smiths spedo drives that came in Mile and metric flavors. Miles units resulted in 1000 revs per mile and metric were 1600 revs/mile. The standard for miles on US spedos is 1000 revs/mile. Speedo shops have or can get adapters that are used on trucks when axle ratios are changed. They come in many ratios. So there may be one for a metric conversion.


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Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1341944 Mon Jan 13 2020 08:09 PM
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Gord&Fran Offline
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Tommy has the answer. Spin the speedo thru 1000 turns by hand. If it added 1 unit, the odometer is in miles. If added 5/8 of a unit, the odometer is in km.


Gord
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Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1342598 Fri Jan 17 2020 07:53 PM
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Stevenichol Offline
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Well it could be that the speedo itself is the same on both sides of the border, the printing on the face of the speedometer is placed differently.
Just a thought
Steve

Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1342764 Sun Jan 19 2020 12:32 AM
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Stove Offline
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I am guessing the odometer is in kilometres.

Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1342767 Sun Jan 19 2020 01:18 AM
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2ManyTrucks Offline OP
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i measured the odometer
it appears to be in Km!

i turned it about 60-65 times to get the tenth to move one whole unit
so that means it would be about 600-650 turns to get 1 unit increment on the odometer

if the truck cable from the transmission is indeed 1000 turns per mile, then it is also 621 turns per Km
since this odo counts up 1 with 600-650 turns that means it will count 1 Km on the odo with a cable turn rate of 1000 turns per mile.

neat

Re: KPH Speedometer [Re: 2ManyTrucks] #1343110 Tue Jan 21 2020 02:38 PM
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Frank50 Offline
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Here is a YouTube video of a cool 1951 with Uruguay license plates. About 40 seconds in you can see the KPH speedometer. The truck has some other interesting features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69stD8Kjjgs

Your gauge face turned out great. Good work.


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