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Re: New toys (update 1/6/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1342989 Mon Jan 20 2020 06:50 PM
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The morning spent on the ‘39 Dodge went well. No water leaks, so, I put the pulley and fan back on. Generator back in place and belt tightened. Started the engine and let it warm up. Still no leaks. Went to put it in gear to see if it would move, clutch stuck, the transmission would only grind no matter what gear. Shut the engine off, put the transmission in 3rd and hit the foot starter with the key off. Clutch freed right up and it shifts into all four gears. Tried to move it a few inches on the lift but the wheels are locked up. It did this when I picked it up last year. We rocked it back and forth in the shop and it began to move. We pushed it here and parked it. Now for the real head scratcher. I can’t rev off idle without it stumbling and trying to die. Since Carl says “it’s never the carburetor”, I’m going to start with point adjustment and timing. Any input is appreciated.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


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Re: New toys (update 1/6/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1342999 Mon Jan 20 2020 08:22 PM
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It's the Carburetor, even though "it's never the carburetor". LOL
Probably the accelerator pump and/or main jets plugged with varnish.


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First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
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Re: New toys (update 1/6/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1343000 Mon Jan 20 2020 08:22 PM
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It's the carburetor. Sounds like the accelerator pump.


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Re: New toys (update 1/6/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1343011 Mon Jan 20 2020 09:54 PM
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I'd try with the choke partly engaged just to see if it's a lean condition. I also suspect it was Cold the day you were working on it so a little choke might not be a bad thing. For the benefit of anyone who doesn't know (not Martin for sure) it's easy to check the accelerator pump. Start by removing the air cleaner and while looking down the throat of the carb and (with key off) and perhaps a flashlight shining down the carb, work the linkage from full closed to full open. Should see fuel spraying with each actuation of the throttle linkage.

Last edited by moparguy; Tue Jan 21 2020 02:28 AM.

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Re: New toys (update 1/20/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1343014 Mon Jan 20 2020 10:11 PM
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I my effort to keep everyone up with the good and the bad I’ll post this afternoons adventure. Many years ago in another life Ms Kathy and I raced Sand Buggy’s. Towed with a ‘63 GMC Carryall powered by a 305 V6. Our buggy was powered by a turbocharged Corvair 6. I pulled up to the line next to a puny Volkswagen. The flag dropped and the buggy fell flat on its face. Sputtered, coughed and backfired all the way down the 200 yard strip. When I got back to the pits I got out the dwell meter and found the points closed up to about .008. Opened them to .016 and it roared back to life but my day was done. I did make a solo pass during afternoon test time just to show the crowd that it would run.
Now on to the Dodge, Ms Kathy worked the starter until the points rub block was on a high lobe on the distributor. Points were almost closed. I gapped them to .016 put the rotor back in and the cap on. Engine fired right up and ran much smoother but still had some hesitation. I could get it to rev up which I couldn’t this morning. So I put the tools away and came in for the day. Got out an old Motors Manual that I bought from Cletis and looked up 1939 Dodge. Lo and behold the points are supposed to set at .020. So the next warm day I’ll open the points up some more. The Stromberg carburetor was gone through in 2003-2004 but it has set for many many years. It’s on my to do list for a bit warmer weather.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: New toys (update 1/6/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1343025 Tue Jan 21 2020 12:17 AM
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Re: New toys (update 1/6/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1343037 Tue Jan 21 2020 12:56 AM
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See, It's never the carburetor. grin


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Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: New toys (update 1/6/2020) new photos [Re: Justhorsenround] #1344484 Fri Jan 31 2020 10:06 PM
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Been working on the 1939 Dodge Coupe when it’s warm and dry enough. The rub block on the points is worn too far to get the points set correctly. New set is on the list. After a few days since bleeding the brakes the wheels are still locked up. Tried bleeding pressure off the system by opening the bleeders but the wheels are still locked, well, except for the left rear. It will move. Now I have a fluid leak at the right rear. Not just a dribble but a serious leak. Checked the line fittings and they are tight. Must be the wheel cylinder itself but it’s leaking at the back of the cylinder and not running down inside the drum but running down the back of the backing plate. I have never messed with Lockheed brakes before so this is a learning experience. Any Lockheed experts out there please PM me so we can exchange ideas.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: New toys (update 2/4/2020) [Re: Justhorsenround] #1344964 Tue Feb 04 2020 03:54 PM
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Replaced the 1939 Dodge Coupe master cylinder over the weekend. The design engineers who put the master under the steering column should be drawn and quartered. Had to remove the front 1/2 of the floor board to get a wrench to the 2 bolts holding it on. Two hours to do that and another hour to get the master off. Forty five to get the new one bolted in place then stripped a brass fitting on the front of the master where the brake line attaches. Guess what......It’s an odd size that no one around here has in stock. Took two fittings and made one so the line is hooked back up. Rain, sleet, freezing drizzle and snow for the foreseeable future so the bleed and messing with the wheel cylinders is on hold for now.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: New toys (update 2/4/2020) [Re: Justhorsenround] #1344976 Tue Feb 04 2020 04:46 PM
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Martin, Progress is good even if slow. You do know, a phone call and guys with trucks, tools and equipment will show up. Then they'll leave. Then you'll have a roof over your lift and weather will not be an excuse for not working on the precious metal vehicles. smile

RonR


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
1951 Farmall Super A



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