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Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1338684 Sun Dec 22 2019 12:50 PM
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DL, no I still have the drum brakes. I think about them some times but the drums work fine just have to keep them adjusted. I'm old enough to know what it's like to drive a vehicle with out disc brakes.


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59 apache 1/2t
261 short stepside
Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1338697 Sun Dec 22 2019 03:23 PM
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OK, I am putting disc on mine as I already have setup a dual master cylinder and will add a proportioning valve. I will make my own caliper mouting bracket and will trace it after completion using 78 4wd 12" rotors and 72 calipers and hoses.

Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1340439 Sat Jan 04 2020 03:38 PM
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That 82 250 from a pickup is an intregal intake manifold cyl. head. It is not a good setup. You will need to get a different cyl. head with a separate manifolds.
Other then that I think it will be a good swap.
George


They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing.

1956 Chevy 1/2-Ton Pickup

Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1340567 Sun Jan 05 2020 01:05 PM
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Yes George, I have an older 230 engine that I will use the head and manifolds from if I do the swap.


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Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1340643 Mon Jan 06 2020 12:48 AM
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Hi Tommy

I'm kinda a 250 Chevy - Six "Fan" . I really like 'em . With that being said - - - I'm running my 69 Nova with the "stock original 250 motor" ; and, had the P/G trans. Then, I went to the w/c T 5 (93 GMC S-15 version - tag # 1352 - 222 , with electric speedo) ; and, it fit very well into my Nova , using the stock (T 5) "input shaft" (14 spline input, with 21 teeth ) . here's my question ; with that 14 spline input shaft - - I used a 10 1/2" dia clutch disc in my set-up. - - - WHAT Is Your Input splines ?

Then, use a 'block mounted starter' for a 153 flywheel' ; 'a stock SBC Flywheel (153 teeth) ; and all stock clutch parts (pertaining to my car). I even used the Powerglide crossmember with a slight mod in the center (you may not need ,
because of your higher floor) .

If, your T 5 has " the 14 spline input shaft" - - - I have those 'Part numbers' .

If I can Help . . . jim

ps. - - I'm also running that "VSS electric speedo drive with my stock Mech. speedo dash . Works great !

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Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1340682 Mon Jan 06 2020 11:14 AM
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Hey Jim, My world class t-5 was from a Camaro and had a fine spline input shaft. I don't remember the spline count maybe 21? Right now I have a s-10 trans in the truck with a 14 spline input shaft, used the original clutch disk from the 59 truck.


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Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1341087 Wed Jan 08 2020 07:20 PM
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Tommy

I also had the original S 15 clutch disc (was about 9 & 1/8" dia) but the disc I used was from 'SUMMIT : for a V 8 up-grade into an S-10 truck. Summit Part # ADD - 716104 (1" dia 'input shaft with 14 spline" - 10 1/2" dia).

The Camaro T 5 maybe like 26 spline count . . . just FYI.

Then, the "10 spline Jeep T 5 input shaft (that "Luntznuts65" ) talks about on his T5 Page . . Summit also has those (or on E-BAY) part # is 1351085008 R - - - I bought mine from Summit for $ 36.00. - - but, at that time did - not use it

Sometimes the Part Numbers are hard to FIND .

I'm just talking . . . jim

Re: 250 engine swap into a 1959 apache [Re: Tommy] #1341088 Wed Jan 08 2020 07:37 PM
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Jim yep I new the spline count was in the twenties, that trans is a world class out of a camaro. I did do the jeep input swap on another t-5 just haven't used it yet.
I also have one from an Astro van, with a 3.50 first gear. It has an input shaft that is the right length, no cutting, or grinding. The trans has the ford bolt pattern, so I had to get the bell housing off of the Astro van, it was on a 4.3 engine so it will bolt up to just about any chevy block after 1963.


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59 apache 1/2t
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