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1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
#1339844 Tue Dec 31 2019 01:43 PM
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How many of you out there worked on S-10 brakes over the years...particularly the early 80's models?





Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339845 Tue Dec 31 2019 02:00 PM
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I had an 83' for more than 20 years, did the rear brakes probably 3 times. Just about like most GM vehicles.


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Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
TUTS 59 #1339847 Tue Dec 31 2019 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TUTS 59
I had an 83' for more than 20 years, did the rear brakes probably 3 times. Just about like most GM vehicles.


Great! With that much hands on experience I need your assistance in troubleshooting my S-10 brakes under this old '59. TUTS take a close look these pics...notice how the adjuster arm is not in direct contact with the star wheel. I know the star wheel teeth are worn down and I will replace it. But I'm perplexed on how this auto-adjuster is designed to work. The (2) piece design is sloppy and the spring under the arm tends to lift the arm away from contacting the star wheel that can't be right. And the the link attached to the arm is a fixed length???

What am I missing........

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Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339851 Tue Dec 31 2019 02:49 PM
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Ok, now I’m confused. You posted in your other thread on this subject, that you were working on a Camero rear end. Now, with the exact same photos you are working on a S-10 rear end. Which is it? What information in the other thread didn’t help? Why did you start another thread on the same subject? Self adjusting drum brakes all work basically the same. It’s obvious you are a very impatient person. Sometimes you just don’t get the answer you want on a public forum. It’s time for you to go make friends with the old man that has the old dirty garage in town and get some hands on experience. I know this may seem harsh to you but you can only ignore good advice so much until the advise dries up. Good luck.


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Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339852 Tue Dec 31 2019 03:27 PM
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Wait a minute there....I have allot of experience...30 yrs in the engine rooms aboard ships you've only seen in pictures. I've done multiple drum/disc brakes conversions, '55 Chevy, '67 Chevelle SS, '69 Pro Street Camaro....shall I go on. What business is of yours that I might just tap others experiences on specific details....it certainly shouldn't offend anyone...I asked pointed questions to one particular subject an S-10 of which I haven't dealt with and you are delving out criticism. It so happens I didn't know what rear-end I had. Yes that was an oversight but really responding in such a way....think about it.
Where in the rules does it state a member can't post multiple posts or ask a question in a different fashion.

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Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339854 Tue Dec 31 2019 03:39 PM
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Why not just correct your first thread and continue on. With your previous experience you should be teaching us drum/disc conversions. Your way of doing things just clutters up the Forum. My opinion and it may not be shared by all but I am entitled to it. Carry on.


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Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339855 Tue Dec 31 2019 03:49 PM
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I see your point....but to that point could I have had the ability to alter the Thread Title...to appease everyone or would that have been confusing as well? Have a good New Years Eve





Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339860 Tue Dec 31 2019 05:18 PM
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I responded on the previous post. For the record GM used the same self adjuster configuration with slight changes on just about everything they produced from 1964 through the mid 80's. This includes full & mid size cars, trucks, etc. I worked on many of them in shops and on my own vehicles. As I mentioned previously, you have the incorrect spring on the adjuster arm. It looks like the correct one is on the floor in the picture. Just because parts come with the kit does not make them correct. Many of the parts that are produced today do not fit correctly. Double check the hole in the shoe and the diameter of the retainer on the hold back spring on the actuator. It has to pivot at that location and It could be binding up. You may have to mix and match some of the old parts to make it work correctly.
Fred

Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339861 Tue Dec 31 2019 05:45 PM
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I appreciate the continued assistance and sharing your knowledge. I unfortunately tossed the old left over parts. The spring your referring to under the adjuster arm is it oval in shape??? Because all the other offerings show this spring as a beehive design.

"Hole in the shoe and retainer diameter on the hold back spring" You kind of lost me there....please clarify

It looks like in 1985 GM S-10's went to a (1) piece adjuster arm. Inexpensive kit available. Do you see any reason why I couldn't just upgrade to a (1) piece arm and eliminate any error?

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Re: 1982 S-10 Drum Brakes
Apache1 #1339864 Tue Dec 31 2019 06:11 PM
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Some criticism aimed at all of us---myself included. We are so used to tapping computer keys we forget there are very detailed exploded drawings in old MOTORS's Manuals, (MOTOR'S and NOT Chiltons). This manual usually covered a seven year span so a 1982 to 1989 would have the drawing. We have a complete set from 1929 to the mid 70's and I ignore them until I get stuck on something; usually electrical or wiring. Something you might check out.


Evan
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