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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1337727 Sun Dec 15 2019 03:09 PM
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It should be 2WD since it's a C.


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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1337777 Mon Dec 16 2019 12:06 AM
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I also think the frames are different. The 2WD has an X frame and the 4WD has a ladder frame. Right?
I agree with the others about the C or K in serial number.


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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Hambone] #1337782 Mon Dec 16 2019 12:33 AM
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It’s a truck that is for sale. Infact it might of got sold. My understanding is C is 2wd and K is 4wd but the gentleman is telling me they made C’s into 4x4s I guess like a NAPCO. I’m not sure lol.


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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1337784 Mon Dec 16 2019 12:45 AM
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I'm pretty sure that the C and K frames were both ladder type. It wouldn't be that hard to bolt on 4x4 front suspension on a 2WD truck. In fact, I doubt that ANY truck used an X frame.


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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1337824 Mon Dec 16 2019 05:07 AM
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The 1960 C10 frame is an X frame also supported with outside frame rails. It isn't a typical X frame as on a 1964 impala (for example), but is often referred to as an X frame.

Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1337856 Mon Dec 16 2019 02:54 PM
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Please see link to 1960 Brochure which shows two frame designs - one for 4x2 and another for 4x4.
http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stat...evrolet%20Pickups%20Brochure/image4.html
And I thought that design continued thru 1966, but I guess I was mistaken. See link
http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stat...20Pickups%20Brochure%20(Rev)/image4.html
Since the 2WD and 4WD frames are essentially the same, then a C10 could be converted to 4X4 as others have suggested. Whether NAPCO or not I don't know, though I have read of some NAPCO trucks being built into the 70s. You could visit the NAPCO Facebook page for more info.


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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1337890 Mon Dec 16 2019 07:12 PM
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C= 2WD, K= 4WD. The title and the Vin plate need to match. The vin plate needs to show original attachment, never removed. Then there is the frame stamp. That stamp may just have the numbers and not the C/K. At any rate, the truck is not a NAPCO. There are no 1/2 T Napco's after 1959. The are not called Napcos. They are factory 4X4's. (K10)(K14)(K15)
Before 1960 there are Dealer Napcos, DIY Napco's, upfitter Napco's and factory Napco's. All legit if built with the kit, on or around the time period. Lots of so-called Napcos built from donor parts, etc. Some under the name "restored". It was pretty easy because all the trucks had the same chassis with leaf spings. Then when independent front suspension/rear coil came along there had to be two different chassis. C and K, etc. This truck is one of those mysteries that has to be investigated to get the true story. You may see where the independent front suspension was removed and leaf springs added. The rear trailing arms, and etc., would be converted to leaf. It could have been built any number of ways. It also depends on the components and other tell tale features. The factory 4x4 in 60-66 used the same basic drivetrain as the former Napco's (divorced transfer case/3 drive shafts). All kinds of VIN swaps, frame swaps, chassis swaps, illegal swaps and legit DIY swaps have been done. K designation started in 1960.
Most likely this truck is a clone, a latter day conversion.

Frank50, I do not see any 4WD chassis pics in your links.


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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1337940 Mon Dec 16 2019 10:40 PM
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I agree with Bartamos, the independent front suspension started in 1960 and it killed the ability of converting a "C" truck into a "K" truck by the dealer or owner, thus eliminating any third party competition. The only way to get a GM 4X4 was to buy/order it that way...no more DIY'ers.

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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: bartamos] #1338081 Tue Dec 17 2019 04:00 PM
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Bartamos , thank for the very valuable information. I appreciate it


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Re: 1964 Chevrolet C10 4x4? [Re: Surfer] #1338095 Tue Dec 17 2019 05:32 PM
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Sorry guys I muddied the water. The link to the 1960 brochure shows 2 types of chassis/frames. The print was so small, I did not read it correctly. The ladder frame with rear leafs is for the C30. My bad.


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