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"Its never the carburetor"
#1337577 Sat Dec 14 2019 12:48 AM
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My diagnostics mantra is, "Its never the carburetor."
It was recently proven true once again recently.
A buddy of mine called me to help him figure out a no-start/ no-run situation on an early Ferguson 9N.
The tractor ran fine recently, but now it doesn't
He said the sediment bowl of the fuel filter was full of crud, so he cleaned it out. Still won't start/run.
He wanted to dig into the carburetor. I stopped him dead in his tracks.
I told him to check for spark first. He was giving me some guff, so I threatened his health and well-being and that of his dog, children, and all of his ex-wives if he even touched a screw on that carburetor.
He relented even though he indicated that my inclusion of threatening harm to both of his ex-wives actually weakened my argument.
What do you know, no spark. It turns out that the overachieving owner of the 9N decided to pressure wash the entire engine, soaking the coil, causing the no-start condition.
He pulled the coil, put a hair drier near the distributor area, then re-assembled everything after it was dried up, and it started right up.

Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1337605 Sat Dec 14 2019 10:33 AM
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IN my mileage quest it was not the dual carbs but miscalculated odometer for 10 years. dang


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Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1337931 Mon Dec 16 2019 10:26 PM
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I had a customer that complained his gas mileage fell off suddenly. I fooled with the carb & timing & nothing helped. Finally I noticed gas spaying out of the vent in the fuel pump. I replaced the fuel pump & behold a satisfied customer.
George
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Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1338019 Tue Dec 17 2019 03:41 AM
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My friend was having trouble with his 283 2-barrel would not start and run. I lifted the air cleaner and had him try to start. After about 1/2 second gas was shooting out the carburetor vent tube. The brass float had a crack and was filled with gas. We replaced the float and problem solved. Sometimes it is the carburetor.

Mark

Re: "Its never the carburetor"
WE b OLD #1338022 Tue Dec 17 2019 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WE b OLD
IN my mileage quest it was not the dual carbs but miscalculated odometer for 10 years. dang


Really? what did you do to the odometer to change it so that your mileage fell off?

At least it was good for several interesting conversations pertaining to miles per gallon on could expect!

Last edited by Rusty Rod; Tue Dec 17 2019 04:02 AM.

Another quality post.


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Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1338044 Tue Dec 17 2019 11:29 AM
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It is a programable speedometer and first, you have to program a measured mile, our roads are numbered, 150n then 200n or south, east or west and so on and we have measured miles here which I found out that they can be off by as much as 20% when I used GPS on my phone. A short tutorial on setting it, drive one mile stop and hold the button down for 3 seconds, then release and hold for 4 seconds, get the point. And that is to set the rear axle ratio now for the speedometer. Then when the power is shut off you have to do it again. And when I got back from HQ is when I had electrical problems, which turned out to be a faulty ignition switch. That is when I used the GPS and finally got it set correctly.


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Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1338061 Tue Dec 17 2019 01:37 PM
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I recently rebuilt the carbs on my Sunbeam Alpine. I couldn't get it to run right. I fiddled and fiddled. It sounded like it was running on 2 cylinders. I pulled the plugs to see which ones aren't firing. 3 of 4 were oil soaked. I changed them and what do you know it ran great. "it's never the carburetor".


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Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1338065 Tue Dec 17 2019 02:00 PM
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Carl -- Never say never. I once had some performance issues with the ole 216 in my truck -- at higher RPMs, it would stumble and fall all over itself. The W-1 was tired and leaking fuel out of most places. I replaced the W-1 with the Rochester and ... whoa, what a difference! Performance picked way up.

Of course, the Rochester didn't fit on the 216's intake, so I had to modify the attachment by using a 261 intake. The 261 intake didn't exactly fit the 216 very well, so I modified that by using an 848 head. That head didn't fit the 216 block very well, so I got around that by using a 261 block. Just a few minor mods but I'm sure it was all the carburetor.

smile


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When tomorrow comes..."


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Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1338142 Tue Dec 17 2019 09:49 PM
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Unrepentant VW Lover
Well wonderful -- I've killed another thread. (blows the smoke from the muzzle, twirls the Colt and slides it back in the holster in one fluid motion. Tips the hat to the ladies and saunters off ... they stand wondering "Who *was* that man ...???")

dance


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When tomorrow comes..."


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Re: "Its never the carburetor"
52Carl #1338147 Tue Dec 17 2019 10:07 PM
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You are the man John!
Topic thief and topic killer!

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