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Dipstick length #1333680 Wed Nov 13 2019 11:41 PM
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Can anyone tell me the correct length for the dipstick to be used in a 235 straight 6? The guys at the restoration shop that did our restoration think mine is incorrect and a previous owner may have installed the wrong one.

They put 5 quarts of oil in the crankcase plus an extra quart for the external oil filter and the oil level on the dipstick says I need to add oil.

Thanks,

John in Raleigh, NC enjoying driving our restored '58

Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333724 Thu Nov 14 2019 08:19 AM
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Just get a dipstick that is way too long (van) and run it in till it hits the bottom of the pan. The distance from the top of the tube to the washer/cup on the dipstick is how much that needs to be removed (+ 1/4"). Put dipstick in and mark where the 5 + 1 oil level is at and you have a dipstick that is exactly correct for YOUR engine.


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Re: Dipstick length [Re: coilover] #1333729 Thu Nov 14 2019 12:34 PM
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raleigh58 Offline OP
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Thanks Evan for the suggestion/plan. you are my only response out of 32 'Looks' at my post.

John

Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333733 Thu Nov 14 2019 12:51 PM
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You can do the same thing with the dipstick you have. If you know it has the correct amount of oil in it, mark that level as the full mark. The next time you change oil stop one quart short and mark that as the Add mark. Also, if you use the view number as an indicator of people willing to help you're making a mistake. Those viewing may not have an answer to help you or may have the same problem and are looking for a solution as well. Not every one of our registered users is an expert in every field.

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Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333744 Thu Nov 14 2019 02:06 PM
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Not every one of our registered users is an expert in every field.
True: I'd get an "F" in paint, interior, brakes, axle, and suspension; perhaps a "B" in engine.

I'm only going to post if I think I have something to add (and not if the answers already given are helpful).

Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333762 Thu Nov 14 2019 03:57 PM
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1. Remove the oil pan and place it on a workbench.
2. Level the pan flanges, front to back and side to side.
3. Pour 4 Qts. of oil or any other liquid into the pan.
4. Measure the distance from the pan flange to the surface of the liquid.
5. Insert the dipstick into the tube and measure the same vertical distance from the pan rail as step #4.
6. Mark the dipstick "Full" at the above distance.
7. Mark the dipstick "Add" 3/4" below the "full" line.

The oil filter canister will retain approximately 1/2 quart with the engine stopped so the oil level with 5 quarts onboard will read slightly above full after the engine sits idle for several hours. The dipstick will be accurate after about 10 minutes' run time and a shutdown.
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Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333783 Thu Nov 14 2019 06:32 PM
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Gentlemen,

Thank you for your suggestions.

John

Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333851 Fri Nov 15 2019 05:41 AM
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What would the experts, or anyone else for that matter, suggest for an engine which came from the factory with no dipstick whatsoever? Not build under the bow tie or gmc banner, but American made.


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Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333864 Fri Nov 15 2019 01:44 PM
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I am not an expert - take my suggestion with less than a grain of salt.

What make, year, size engine (for what size/make truck)?
Is this a new/unused engine (the procedure below would be slightly different in each case)?

Here is my simple-minded suggestion:

Find out the oil capacity/fill specs for that engine - how much oil it needs for an oil change w/wo oil filter (depending on what your engine has). Ask here, if you cannot find the specs).

Empty the engine-oil (and replace the filter).

Add the specified qts of oil.
Wait a few minutes for the oil to settle.
Start the engine and run it until it warms up.
Stop the engine, and, wait 5 minutes.
Remove dipstick and clean/wipe it.
Put the dipstick back, and then remove it.
Mark the level/location of the oil on the dipstick.

Go-ahead: make fun of me - deride me - feel sorry for me (and my family) if my simple-minded suggestion it ridiculous.


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Re: Dipstick length [Re: raleigh58] #1333865 Fri Nov 15 2019 01:50 PM
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Then you trust the computer and it's prompts that oil is low or it's time to change it. That's what I do with newer vehicles. 100's of thousands of miles and no problems. Now that said, ours do have dip sticks and I do keep a eye on levels. Fact is I can't remember the last time I had to add oil (on a newer vehicle) and the change prompt usually happens from the 7 to 8k mark.


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