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Engine Installation Advice
#1332888 Thu Nov 07 2019 04:53 PM
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Hi Everyone,

Quick request here, but first the specifics: 1953 3100, 235 engine with standard 3 speed transmission.

I'm getting ready to install the 235 into my truck. I have the basic 3 speed transmission already attached to the engine and hope to install both as a unit. The hood is removed from the truck. All front sheet metal is in place. My request: can anyone provide tips, tricks or pitfalls to avoid when installing an engine this way? I hope to keep all the sheet metal in place, if possible. I have no experience doing this, so nothing is too basic for me!

Thanks in advance,


Mike

1953 3100
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Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332892 Thu Nov 07 2019 05:21 PM
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Is the radiator removed?
Is the radiator frame/housing removed?
If the “top cover” between the grill and radiator housing removed?


Tim
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- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332893 Thu Nov 07 2019 05:27 PM
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Tim,

The radiator is out.
The radiator frame is still in the truck.
The formed sheet metal between the grill and radiator is out.

I was wondering if I should try to get the grill bars out. If so, how hard is that to do?


Mike

1953 3100
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Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332899 Thu Nov 07 2019 06:18 PM
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Leaving the front sheet metal on requires the assembly to be at an extreme transmission down angle and plenty of clearance under the truck. It can be done but it requires a lot of “down, back, up, tilt, down, back, down and more tilt” in order to ease it into place. The motors are awkward enough on a cherry picker without the transmission. You may have to place a couple hundred pounds of weight over the back wheels of the picker to balance everything out. Not fun!


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Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332905 Thu Nov 07 2019 06:45 PM
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If front clip comes off in one piece, that is the "ticket", as the law said. "Shoot low Sheriff, he's ridin' a Shetland"


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Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332919 Thu Nov 07 2019 08:42 PM
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Gray Ghost,

The two posters above have posted, as usual, good advice.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332922 Thu Nov 07 2019 09:28 PM
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Removing the front clip is really pretty easy. Biggest challenge you'll likely have is the need to twist off most of the bolts if they're original. Replacing it is also not that difficult, and gives you a good opportunity to adjust a little if needed. I posted a video on YouTube if you want to spend 5 minutes seeing how it's removed. Removing the front clip


Greg Brown
'49 Chevy 3100
Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332932 Thu Nov 07 2019 11:29 PM
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If you haven't already done it you might consider the water pump relocation. Do a search on that if you are not familiar with it. Much improved cooling if you are using the stock radiator. It would be easier to do before installing the engine.

Re: Engine Installation Advice
Greg Brown #1332936 Fri Nov 08 2019 12:36 AM
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Greg Brown, GREAT vid on removing the front clip. I had not expected it to be that simple. I hope to swap in my new to me, 261 in the next several months and hadn't really considered pulling the front clip. Now I've got to seriously consider that option. I also need to replace the kingpin bushings and freshen up all the front suspension bits. Sure would be nice to have the front clip out of the way. And here I go, heading back down the "while I'm in there" rabbit hole.

Oh, does it go back together in 6 minutes? smile

RonR


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Re: Engine Installation Advice
Gray_Ghost #1332938 Fri Nov 08 2019 01:14 AM
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If you remove the front clip, you will have excellent access to the front metal brake lines. I took advantage of that with mine.


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