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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330725 Mon Oct 21 2019 11:30 PM
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This may be a stupid question, but are you sure you didn’t mix them up? One tie rod end is a left hand thread to match the rod. Just a thought!


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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330733 Tue Oct 22 2019 01:44 AM
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Hey Phil - Not a stupid question at all. but no, they are on the correct ends. Both sides are just as tight...Steve


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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330737 Tue Oct 22 2019 03:02 AM
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Take the bolts out. Take a large cold chisel to use as a wedge and strike with a MFH (Medium Force Hammer smile ) to spread the ears out until you have enough slack to easily thread it on.
I have had to do this with crusty original ends and shafts to get them to go on smoothly.
What do you have to lose? If it doesn't work, send them back. No one will know any difference. I will make my standard bet of 1 dozen donuts that you won't need to send them back.
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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330751 Tue Oct 22 2019 10:22 AM
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A couple of things. It appears you are roughly .006 to .007 heavier on the OD new rod vs. old. Secondly, if memory serves I believe the rod ends are left and right hand threads.

Once again attempting to flare the casting of the rod end should NOT be attempted. Think for a minute. Even if you could get the rod started say a thread or two then what. Its still a smaller (tapered) opening as you attempt to thread the rod any further.

IMHO, you have mis-matched parts. And in today's aftermarket world that would not be a shocking surprise.

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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330770 Tue Oct 22 2019 02:11 PM
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You stated that the Tie Rod is Heavy Duty, are you sure it's not a 3/4 or 1 ton part number? I have the LMC Tie Rod and Ends on my 59' ( I know yours is an AD) both are the Heavy Duty and fit together great.


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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
TUTS 59 #1330774 Tue Oct 22 2019 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TUTS 59
You stated that the Tie Rod is Heavy Duty, are you sure it's not a 3/4 or 1 ton part number? I have the LMC Tie Rod and Ends on my 59' ( I know yours is an AD) both are the Heavy Duty and fit together great.


TUTS is correct, I have a 1/2 & 1 ton front axle && I took a mic to them. The 1/2ton drag link is 1/2 inch & the one tons (not sure about 3/4) is 1 inch. That has to be the problem.. He either needs the tie rod ends for the 1/2ton or a drag link from a 1ton to use those tie rod ends....joe

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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330794 Tue Oct 22 2019 06:34 PM
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There was a similar thread on this topic last August:
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1321092/1.html

Tim posted a link to the parts book on the old car manual site. According to the book (as I read it), the tie rod is supposed to have 3/4 - 16 threads and the tie rod ends are supposed to have 25/32 - 16 threads.

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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330809 Tue Oct 22 2019 09:33 PM
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Thanks All...I confirmed the ends say 1/2 ton in the LMC description. The tie-rod part just has a year range for 1st series.

Thanks Gord for adding the link with thread intel. I'm going to go check that out...

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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330813 Tue Oct 22 2019 10:11 PM
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Measuring the OD of the rod isn’t going to tell you much because that is not telling you if the thread was cut deep enough. You would need to measure the root of the thread on the rod and the ID of the thread on the tie rod ends to give you any idea if it is going to work. Tough to do without the right tools. They make micrometers to do just that but is cost prohibitive. Not many of us have taps and dies in that size, not to mention you would also need them in left hand configuration.

You could try as Fox suggested to spread the tie rod ends a bit or just send them back and either get another set from LMC or try another vendor.


Phil

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Re: New Tie-Rod End Job
OhioSteve #1330815 Tue Oct 22 2019 10:58 PM
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A thread gauge would be beneficial.

Why do you all insist on telling him to spread the rod end....that's just not kosher.


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