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Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1329067 Mon Oct 07 2019 12:16 AM
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52Carl Offline
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Here is what I did. There is a light bulb in the ignition switch bracket which illuminates the the ignition key area when the headlights are on.
I cut the wire for that light and wired it to the "ignition-on" terminal of the ignition switch.
Now, when my Chinese-made ignition switch remains "on", in spite of the fact that the key has been turned to the "off" position and the key has been removed, the light reminds me that the ignition is still "on".
Carl

Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1329076 Mon Oct 07 2019 12:48 AM
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Phak1 Offline OP
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Thanks Carl, thats a good Idea. I kinda like the idiot light idea. My alternator does have another set of terminals and I’ve seen some miniature red LED indicator lights on flea bay. Now to locate a suitable spot on or under the dash. Thanks all for your suggestions.


Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100 w/‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1329077 Mon Oct 07 2019 12:58 AM
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cmayna Offline
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I'm confused here.....what else is new?
Is your key locked to your ignition switch while in the on position? If so, is the ignition switch attached to your daily key ring? Meaning, you can't get into your house or fire up any of your other cars unless you have your daily key ring in hand.


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Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1329084 Mon Oct 07 2019 01:40 AM
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Phak1 Offline OP
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No, I’m in the process of working out all of the mechanical and electrical issues, so I’m not driving it at the moment. The truck is in my garage, so the single key was in the ignition while I troubleshot the gas gauge. After going thru the grueling process of removing/installing the cluster to install a new 12 volt gas gauge, I found that the float on my new sending unit wasn’t floating which sent me off in another direction, forgetting about the ignition still being on.

If I was driving I don’t believe it would be an issue.


Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100 w/‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1329087 Mon Oct 07 2019 01:52 AM
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If your not driving it a simple solution would be to remove the positive battery cable before quitting for the day and don’t reconnect it unless working on the ign/electrical system.


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'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


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Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1329111 Mon Oct 07 2019 11:45 AM
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Phak1 Offline OP
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I see a battery kill switch in my future. I installed one on my boat not too long ago and it works great!

I remove the negative terminal which accomplishes the same goal but It’s the recommended and safest way to disconnect the battery. The reasoning is if your loosening the bolt on the positive terminal and your wrench accidentally hits ground it will create a spark. A spark near the battery potentially can ignite the hydrogen gasses the battery generates during charging. I personally saw a battery explode in my father face while he was hooking up a set of jumper cables. It wasn’t a pretty sight. He was fortunate he was wearing large reading glasses that saved his eyes. I gained allot of respect for batteries that day almost fifty years ago.


Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100 w/‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Justhorsenround] #1329154 Mon Oct 07 2019 07:54 PM
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bartamos Offline
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Originally Posted by Justhorsenround
If your not driving it a simple solution would be to remove the positive battery cable before quitting for the day and don’t reconnect it unless working on the ign/electrical system.

Agree with Martin.
I disconnect the neg every time I get out of my truck. Just can't sleep at night with battery hooked up. The cable clamp is just right to put it on and twist a little. There is no cure for paranoia, so this is the only answer. A light does not work on idiots, so I can't use that.


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Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1332781 Wed Nov 06 2019 07:12 PM
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LeeD Offline
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In reading the original post, it appears that part of the issue arrises from needing to work on the electrical system troubleshooting with the ignition on (not necessarily forgotten to be turned off), in that case, I just pull my coil wire to keep power from the points. It saves them anyway. I also have a quick disconnect on the negative terminal of the battery, it makes it so easy to isolate the battery.

Lee


1956 Chevy 3200
Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1332793 Wed Nov 06 2019 09:03 PM
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Phak1 Offline OP
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Are you pulling the high voltage wire or the 12v supplying power to the coil?.

I just installed a battery cutoff switch using the negative side to break the circuit. Now when I disconnect the battery when I leave the shop.

I tried to install an idiot light but I couldn’t get it work with my one wire alternator.

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Phil

1952 Chevrolet 3100 w/‘59 235 & hydraulic lifters
“Three on the Tree” & 4:11 torque tube
12v w/ Alternator
Re: Leaving Ignition Switch On [Re: Phak1] #1332821 Thu Nov 07 2019 02:28 AM
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LeeD Offline
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I am pulling the booted plug off the top of the distributor, I believe that will keep the points from getting power even if they happen to be closed (that is what I was told anyway, and I have not burned up any points yet). I just do it when I will be working with the ignition switch on for any length of time. I really like the battery disconnect switch, so much easier than getting out my half inch wrench and loosening the clamp bolt.

Lee.


1956 Chevy 3200
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