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color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
#1328110 Sun Sep 29 2019 02:46 PM
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At the truck show in Winchester this weekend, I noticed (and was shown) the color/finish of/on the firewall sides filler panels on several trucks.

My three 1954 trucks were unfinished perhaps-galvanized steel. I obtained my 1954 Suburban in 1971, and the engine compartment had not been repainted. The 1953 truck's image below looks non-painted.

However, several earlier-years A-D trucks at the show had black (flat or semi-gloss black) filler panels. Some of those owners are certain that the black is the original color.

What have other members found on their trucks?
And, do you think the color of the plates is original?

My uninformed/unsupported guess is that there might have been a change over the years?

Thanks (I know that discussing this detail is "nit-picking" - dang those nits)

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47-54 firewall sides filler plates.jpg (13.33 KB, 125 downloads)

Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE [1954advance-design.com] - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
tclederman #1328112 Sun Sep 29 2019 03:41 PM
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Pretty sure mine were as you mentioned either unfinished or zinc plated.

Looked at the truck listed right now in the ebay section which looks like a survivor truck and they appear to have been black. click

Last edited by Greg_H; Sun Sep 29 2019 04:21 PM.
Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
tclederman #1328119 Sun Sep 29 2019 04:22 PM
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My 1951 Suburban had black. Original engine compartment with production line markings.

Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
Greg_H #1328125 Sun Sep 29 2019 05:40 PM
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ace skiver
Originally Posted by Greg_H
Pretty sure mine were as you mentioned either unfinished or zinc plated.

Looked at the truck listed right now in the ebay section which looks like a survivor truck and they appear to have been black.


So, Greg, you have an example for both ways. ohwell
Are there body-colored repair plates/panels near the filler plates?
Non-original valve cover, with interesting PCV system on that 1954 engine in that eBay ad? cool

Anyone else with a 1954-1955st?

[I'll try to add images below - for that eBay 1954]

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1954 eBay filler plate 1.jpg (239.61 KB, 118 downloads)
1954 eBay filler plate 2.jpg (226.17 KB, 116 downloads)
Last edited by tclederman; Sun Sep 29 2019 05:45 PM. Reason: images added

Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE [1954advance-design.com] - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
tclederman #1328126 Sun Sep 29 2019 05:52 PM
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Mine are removed and in storage. I guess I need to take a closer look at the backside as that should have been pretty well protected. Maybe it is Bob Adler time again...

Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
tclederman #1328133 Sun Sep 29 2019 07:22 PM
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Mine were ..........






Rust colored grin


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
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Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
tclederman #1328138 Sun Sep 29 2019 07:59 PM
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Somewhere back in our truck's 65+ year history, somebody removed them and never put them back. Doesn't seem to affect drive-ability.


Gord
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1954 1/2 ton 235 4 speed
Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
Gord&Fran #1328181 Mon Sep 30 2019 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Gord&Fran
Somewhere back in our truck's 65+ year history, somebody removed them and never put them back. Doesn't seem to affect drive-ability.


No. But dirt and debris will gather more readily in the folds of steel which causes rot from the inside out.

Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
tclederman #1328193 Mon Sep 30 2019 01:37 AM
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I went through some of my files of pictures for my 1951 Chevrolet Suburban . I believe mine are like marks, there is evidence of black paint on them, but mostly rust patina color. I've attached three pictures of them , tell me what you think.

Thanks,
Tim

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firewall.JPG (280.54 KB, 64 downloads)
firewall pic 2.JPG (240.31 KB, 66 downloads)
firewall pic 3.JPG (203.86 KB, 63 downloads)

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Re: color(s) of A-D fire-wall to fenders side filler panels
tclederman #1328209 Mon Sep 30 2019 02:52 AM
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OK, thanks Mark. I will keep an eye on that area.


Gord
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1954 1/2 ton 235 4 speed

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