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one ton bed assembly #1326954 Fri Sep 20 2019 07:43 PM
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I don't know if this is the place to put this, but I thought others might find it helpful. If this is the wrong place feel free to move it.

Tim

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I am currently digging back in to a 1953 3800 (one ton) with a nine foot bed. I've owned it since 1979, and drove it until 1982 (or so). My wife got me involved in restoring it back in 2002, got the body removed and the frame redone, then things came up. Now I am retired and starting again. If anyone is interested I have photos on Imagur ( https://timwhiteblues.imgur.com/ ). I live way back in the woods in the Ozarks on 40 acres at the end of a 2 1/2 mile private road.

Tim
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327522 Tue Sep 24 2019 01:56 PM
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Where exactly do you buy a bed to assemble? Or is this period correct? I cant seem to find a 9 foot anywhere, aftermarket, new, used, or even scrap for that matter.

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327527 Tue Sep 24 2019 03:31 PM
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It seems that no one makes reproduction sides for the one ton bed. I managed to find a good set several years back from Jim Carter. And I think that Mongo had a set llast time I was at his yard.
Other than that, the front panel, cross sills, wood, and tailgate are available from MarK, and also Jim Carter (which is where I got mine.
I guess there simply aren't enough one tons out there to make it worthwhile making reproduction sides.

Tim


I am currently digging back in to a 1953 3800 (one ton) with a nine foot bed. I've owned it since 1979, and drove it until 1982 (or so). My wife got me involved in restoring it back in 2002, got the body removed and the frame redone, then things came up. Now I am retired and starting again. If anyone is interested I have photos on Imagur ( https://timwhiteblues.imgur.com/ ). I live way back in the woods in the Ozarks on 40 acres at the end of a 2 1/2 mile private road.

Tim
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327531 Tue Sep 24 2019 04:21 PM
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Or the sheet metal cutting and forming machinery they have available can't handle 9'. I never asked but that's my guess.
They do make the other 1 ton specific bed parts as mentioned, so there is demand for 1 ton bed parts to some extent or they wouldn't even make those.


1951 GMC 250 in the Project Journals
1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327536 Tue Sep 24 2019 04:42 PM
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According to Mark (former owner now consultant) at Mar-K there isn’t enough demand for them to build the 9 foot bed sides.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


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Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327569 Tue Sep 24 2019 09:11 PM
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There was a post a while back about a guy who built bed sides (don't recall what size they were) using exhaust tubing for the roll at the top. If a guy had access to a big enough brake to make bends in a 9' sheet of steel, a set could be built. I'm assuming that the stake pockets are the same as the short beds, which would be available from Mar-K or other vendors.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327621 Wed Sep 25 2019 02:50 AM
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Well id like to find em or a complete bed if any1 runs across 1. I currently have nothing yet. Might have togo flatbed style, but dont want to invest in the time and money then find an actual bed that id rather have anyhow.

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327633 Wed Sep 25 2019 04:07 AM
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The stake pockets are the same. However, I used pockets off of parts trucks. I did what Kevin mentioned above with my one ton building my own and it worked out very well. I built the bedsides, front panel, a couple cross sills, the rear cross sill, the running boards and fender extensions. I was able to use a huge brake at the shop where I was building rigs at the time. Those 9’ long welds took a lot of metal working to get smooth!

Would I do it again?

Yep. It’s going way faster this time around...that is, when I’m able to actually have time to work on trucks! Two little ones under 2 years old make it harder to find time!

I’m almost completely done the 1/2 box. I just have to plane and router the bed wood and it’s completely “roughed out!”

https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1107350/1.html


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327670 Wed Sep 25 2019 01:23 PM
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Question? Is a 9 foot bed the same, single wheel or dually, with different fenders?

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327696 Wed Sep 25 2019 06:22 PM
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Duallies didn't have boxes. They would have been a cab and chassis option, and would have come equipped with a grain box, stake bed, or flat deck from a dealer. I hand built my nine foot pickup bed with flared running boards to accommodate the extra width.
Fenders would only come on a single wheel rear box as that was the only option.


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1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327711 Wed Sep 25 2019 08:16 PM
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Hmm. learn something new everyday... No wonder I cant find one.....

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327753 Thu Sep 26 2019 12:51 AM
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If I'm not mistaken they did have a dually in the 30's or 40's with a 9' pickup bed.. I could be mistaken.
For sure the 48-54 9 ' pickup beds were only single wheel (from factory).


1951 GMC 250 in the Project Journals
1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327773 Thu Sep 26 2019 02:29 AM
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I guess nuttin in the late 50s early 60s then?

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1327777 Thu Sep 26 2019 03:18 AM
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That would be so cool to see one of those 30/40 dusllies. I never knew that. Might have to do some inter web surfing here.

I think a guy has to get into the late 60’s for dually box/fender. Maybe the ‘70’s?


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1329840 Mon Oct 14 2019 05:24 AM
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I once saw a late 30's dually in a yard with a box. The running board extensions flared to meet the simple wide rolled rear fenders. I assumed it was a one of custom and it's haunted me ever since. Rather than fabricate 9' sides, I thought it may be easier to purchase a third side and add on to stock length sides with the seams under stake pockets.

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1329968 Tue Oct 15 2019 01:46 AM
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So a super long box? That’d be pretty neat.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1329978 Tue Oct 15 2019 02:53 AM
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Yeah, the long box is one of the neatest things on the truck. When I was still driving it (back in 1980) I needed some gravel for my road, so I drove down to the local gravel guy and asked him to load the back up for me. He dumped a full load from his front end loader, looked at it and said "you can take a little more" and dumped another half bucket in. The over load springs were nearly flat, and the rims were about 2" from the road, but it hauled it back. Of course I drove pretty slow, and the steering wheel had only a minor effect on where I was going, but...

And after living with pickups with 6' beds it will be nice to haul a 4x8 sheet and have it all inside the bed.

Here are a couple of photos of the ruck and bed.

First is the truck yesterday afternoon after the latest shakedown cruise.
Second is the bed assembled sitting in the shop on saw horses.
Third is the bed just after installation on the truck.
Last one is the support from the big bumper to the bed side.

Tim

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IMG_9686a.jpg (131.67 KB, 102 downloads)
bed assembly04a.JPG (176.4 KB, 102 downloads)
bed installed02a.JPG (283.69 KB, 105 downloads)
bed installed 04b.jpg (103.56 KB, 95 downloads)

I am currently digging back in to a 1953 3800 (one ton) with a nine foot bed. I've owned it since 1979, and drove it until 1982 (or so). My wife got me involved in restoring it back in 2002, got the body removed and the frame redone, then things came up. Now I am retired and starting again. If anyone is interested I have photos on Imagur ( https://timwhiteblues.imgur.com/ ). I live way back in the woods in the Ozarks on 40 acres at the end of a 2 1/2 mile private road.

Tim
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330119 Wed Oct 16 2019 01:53 PM
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FWIW, here's a truck we saw at Macungie (PA) a few years ago. It appears to be a 1.5-ton, but still shows how they did the bed to accommodate the duellies. I don't think the outer fenders are factory wink But interesting to see the inner fenders (which might be factory).

I can't tell you anything about the truck. I just saw it in the for sale corral and took the pictures.

John

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DSC_0034.JPG (67.37 KB, 77 downloads)
DSC_0035.JPG (64.3 KB, 75 downloads)
DSC_0036.JPG (61.22 KB, 73 downloads)

John

'49 Chevrolet 3804

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330120 Wed Oct 16 2019 02:21 PM
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More ideas for me. Thanks. Im trying to avoid getting a flatbed. Would really like a 9 ft box.

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330134 Wed Oct 16 2019 03:52 PM
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Also, here's a shot I took of Jim Carter's beautiful 1946 1-ton duallie. Looks like regular rear fedners attached to extensions. The running boards are wider at the rear to accommodate. I'll see if I can find the rest of the pictures I took on that shoot.

Another thought is to take one of those low sided towing bodies...

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2010 carter jim 1946.jpg (459.63 KB, 87 downloads)
jc46_2.jpg (143.77 KB, 79 downloads)
jc46_3.jpg (120.83 KB, 76 downloads)
jc46_5.jpg (205.6 KB, 71 downloads)
Last edited by John Milliman; Wed Oct 16 2019 04:07 PM. Reason: Found 'em!!

John

'49 Chevrolet 3804

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330156 Wed Oct 16 2019 06:12 PM
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Seeing all these pics makes me want to built a long bed dually! big_eek


A 27 year old with a soft spot for old trucks!

1949 Chevy 3100 (In the family since new)
1955.5 Chevy 3100 (Dad's truck)
1958 Chevy 3800 1-ton w/ 9 foot bed
1959 Chevy Spartan 100 (10400)
and various other future projects
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330175 Wed Oct 16 2019 09:41 PM
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Sweet. Any pics of 60s dually beds around?? Or what ever year beds on early 60s dually trucks??

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330591 Mon Oct 21 2019 12:05 AM
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https://www.rtechfabrications.com/the-ponderosa

Check out the Ponderosa! I myself am a Duke fan. 🤤


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330633 Mon Oct 21 2019 01:01 PM
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Wow is an understatement...…. The custom work is utterly amazing. Not to mention the price tags. Lol I have enough trouble welding in a basic patch panel let alone coming close to even park in the same area code as any of those.. drive

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330636 Mon Oct 21 2019 01:09 PM
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Those are very nice. I wonder how many they've actually sold?


John

'49 Chevrolet 3804

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330637 Mon Oct 21 2019 01:16 PM
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Good question. Who has that kinda money? Especially for a truck..But they are way cool

Re: one ton bed assembly [Re: bluesman] #1330642 Mon Oct 21 2019 01:40 PM
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All I can say is “WOW”!


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

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