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Mar-K Bed Wood Kit #1323885 Wed Aug 28 2019 09:17 PM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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How many of you have installed a Mar-K kit? Is it a good way to go? Or is it better to make the boards yourself? I need to replace my warped boards and looking for the best route to take.

I read somewhere on here to stand boards up on end and let them soak in the sealer over night so the end grain soaks up the sealer. When I bought this truck the bed was just redone by the PO, and he apparently didn't seal all the sides. The truck has had a shell on it since shortly after I bought it, and when the lovely inept Big Brand Tire employee backed my truck over the hydrant a couple weeks ago, the boards warped. Big Brand will compensate me for the kit, I just need a good end product when all is said and done.

So, Mar-K or approved equal, or build my own boards? I have a some cross supports and a side tank, too, so that'll get added in to the project when I do it.


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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1323893 Wed Aug 28 2019 09:51 PM
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Mar-k is a Stovebolt supporter. The former owner is a member and Mar-k Tech will answer questions here. Good home grown company to deal with.


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'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2)
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe


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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1323909 Wed Aug 28 2019 11:39 PM
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Lightholder's Dad Offline
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I used Mar-K when I replaced the bed on my '37 project. Since I was looking for the stock look, I intended to paint the bed boards black. On Mar-K's website they have a discussion of their tests of finishes and black paint was the best. I ordered the pine, not the more expensive oak. When the wood arrived, it was so beautiful; not a flaw or knot in any board, and it was hard to apply the paint over that beautiful wood (but I did). Fitment was superb, including those off center holes for the mounting carriage bolts with their special washers.

I am not a woodworker so I could not replicate the bed boards myself. I highly recommend them based on my single experience.
Kent

Last edited by Lightholder's Dad; Wed Aug 28 2019 11:40 PM.

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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1323933 Thu Aug 29 2019 01:56 AM
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I used Mar-k made bed sheet metal, wood and fasteners. I doubt anyone provides a better same product on the planet. It’s not inexpensive, but the trade off in time and headache otherwise would make going with them a “no brainer”, IMO.

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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1323969 Thu Aug 29 2019 11:39 AM
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Hambone Offline
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Mar-k all day. I recommend you call them. In doing so you get a real personal feel for the way they work.


HB

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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1323986 Thu Aug 29 2019 12:57 PM
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dunfire Offline
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I got a Mar-K kit for my 36 GMC and it was well worth the cost, I would highly recommend them.

Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324020 Thu Aug 29 2019 03:40 PM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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Between what I saw on the Mar-K website yesterday, and all y'alls responses, Mar-K is going to be the way I go. I do plan on painting the boards black. I have strips from my old '65 that I had to dismantle, so I can clean those up prior to tearing things down. Thank you for your insight and knowledge. It'll be nice to have straight boards again, but better yet, boards that won't warp.


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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324043 Thu Aug 29 2019 05:15 PM
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Hambone Offline
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Review mar-k bed wood finish experiments. Good info about what treatments hold up


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
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1962 Chevrolet C10
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324046 Thu Aug 29 2019 05:52 PM
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tclederman Offline
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3 coats of POR (all six sides)
followed by
3 coats of semi-gloss black exterior house paint (all six sides)

You can use cheap rollers (throw away after each coat)
Follow the POR instructions for the amount of time between coats.
Mar-K Tips & Tricks

We did this on 18' flatbed boards several years ago - has held up well (outdoors half the year).

I'll be doing this on the '54 pickup that I am restoring.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: Hambone] #1324053 Thu Aug 29 2019 06:14 PM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Hambone
Review mar-k bed wood finish experiments. Good info about what treatments hold up


I did right after seeing your response and was amazed at how the painted boards looked in the 2010 wood test update. Definitely going with paint, and painted as Tim (tclederman) and Mar-K says to. Unfortunately my truck sits outside 24/7/365, so the finish needs to be durable for when the camper shell isn't on the back. When I haul material from the bulk yard I'll make sure to put some plywood on top so the shovel doesn't scratch the finish as I get to the bottom of the pile.


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1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner)
1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324230 Fri Aug 30 2019 10:03 PM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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Do you think 3 gallons of product is enough to cover all the boards 6 times?


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1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner)
1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324233 Fri Aug 30 2019 10:23 PM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
“3 gallons of each product”
(POR and House paint)?

I'd get 3 gallons of each product. If you can buy them locally, you can return unopened can/cans.

You should be able to get the house paint "pre-mixed" (off-the shelf).
An unopened can should be accepted as a return?

Can you find the POR locally - if yes, an unopened can shold be accepted on a return.

I have only done this on a 19' flat bed truck.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324248 Sat Aug 31 2019 01:08 AM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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I was thinking 2 gallons of each at first, then dropped it to 3 gallons. The estimate I gave them is for 4 gallons. If big brand accepts the numbers I gave them, I should have enough to get an extra gallon if needed.


2007 Forester XT Limited (2nd Owner)
1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner)
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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324255 Sat Aug 31 2019 01:54 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
Please let us know how ot goes, and, what how much you use.

I'll be doing my '54 1/2 set this fall (next month?).

Thanks


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324290 Sat Aug 31 2019 02:08 PM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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I will do that.

But first, how many hours do you anticipate redoing a bed will take? In my estimate I didn't include labor, just materials, and he said to go ahead and provide the labor too. I'm asking about unbolting the strips and wheel wells to remove the boards, then prepping and painting and installing the new boards and strips. If you guys have a number throw it out there please. 8 foot fleetside with a little rust. If a nut doesn't turn or causes the bolt to spin, I have a nut splitter.


2007 Forester XT Limited (2nd Owner)
1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner)
1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324326 Sat Aug 31 2019 08:53 PM
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As I recall, just the finish application and with one buddy helping with the assembly, it was about 24 hours. The truck bed was disassembled when I got it so no factual info to offer on that step. But, based on having to remove rusted nuts etc during other aspects of the trucks restoration, it seemed almost all involved loud, mystical four letter word incantations.

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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324375 Sun Sep 01 2019 04:07 PM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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Thanks. I'm thinking an average of 3 minutes per bolt for removal. Does that sound about right? Or should I make it 4 minutes per bolt?


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1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324453 Mon Sep 02 2019 11:17 AM
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Hambone Offline
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I think your paint / por quantities are higher than they need to be. I did long fleetside and used 1/2 gallon of house paint. It went on light after por.
Por - i dont recall specifically but i dont think it took over 1 gallon. I applied multiple coats of both, but dont recall how many coats. That was 12 yrs ago and it is a strong finish. Gets hot in the sun, but that is the only negative.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
Flappy Fenders
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1962 Chevrolet C10
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1324507 Mon Sep 02 2019 07:31 PM
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53 green 1- ton Offline
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Thanks all,
The bed is my next major project.... well that’s planned for that is! What’s that dear, you want the bathroom refinished dang
Jim


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Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: Hambone] #1324553 Mon Sep 02 2019 11:34 PM
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DoubleDingo Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Hambone
I think your paint / por quantities are higher than they need to be. I did long fleetside and used 1/2 gallon of house paint. It went on light after por.
Por - i dont recall specifically but i dont think it took over 1 gallon. I applied multiple coats of both, but dont recall how many coats. That was 12 yrs ago and it is a strong finish. Gets hot in the sun, but that is the only negative.


I calculated 2 gallons of each, expecting to have some leftover. I broke down the process into minutes for each bolt for removal and it was around 5+ hours. 18 hours for sanding, sealing, painting, 2.57 hours for the 7 steps. 3 to 6 hours for installation. 27-30 hours Total. Breaking it all down that's what I got. So basically a weekend project after the boards are prepped and ready. Everyone was busy, so I decided to tackle it, and knowing the condition of the truck, I think the estimated time is right. Shocking, but after breaking it down, it is what it is.


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1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner)
1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1327090 Sat Sep 21 2019 04:22 PM
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47PUJim Offline
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I’ve bought replacement panels, bed wood and fasteners from Mar-K. Everything was shipped perfectly packaged and undamages. Any questions I had were thoroughly answered via phone or in the Bed thread. The parts fit fit spot on. I will never hesitate ordering from them.

I’m still debating what to use finish the wood. I’m leaning toward clear coat on all 6 sides. I just like the look. Having done some woodworking though, I still haven’t read anything conclusive about durability/flexibility in the wood. I have examined beds though that were CCed and they looked good.. ......”Por me”. Haha.....

Re: Mar-K Bed Wood Kit [Re: DoubleDingo] #1327110 Sat Sep 21 2019 06:31 PM
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I used Minwax Helmsman spar urethane and I like the look. I chose this product because other users of this site (experienced woodworkers) had used it. I will leave it to you to use the search feature.

Can't tell you how long it lasts as it's only been a couple of years and the truck lives in a garage and hasn't been driven in the rain.


Gord
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1954 1/2 ton 235 4 speed
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