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Old engine new truck #1321792 Wed Aug 14 2019 02:43 AM
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In need of some help ! Lol. I have a 1959 Apache 31 and am putting a 235 motor in it so I can have the foot starter. I bought a motor the other day and when I got it home I realized that it has side mounts. The motor is a 1954. I’m hoping to not have to change the steering column to make it work. I’m trying to keep it simple if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks ky59apache

Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321799 Wed Aug 14 2019 03:16 AM
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Well KY, Welcome to the Stovebolt Garage!!!
Someone will chime in here and answer your question.
I think? I know the answer, but would rather learn from someone that really knows the answer!

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Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321810 Wed Aug 14 2019 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ky59apache
when I got it home I realized that it has side mounts. The motor is a 1954.


Welcome to the Sotvebolt wave

Your two statements don't go together...you can't have "side mounts" on a "1954 motor", that feature didn't appear on Chevrolet cars until 1958. All 1959 trucks still used the bird leg front motor mounts and the bell housing mounts for the rear regardless of 6-cyl or V8 even though they are cast with the side mount boss'. Your 235 will have two bolt holes on either side of the timing cover that the motor mount brackets bolt to.

https://www.classicchevy.com/chevy-...16Ub2yxtDEaAjVNEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

To ID your motor, give us the stamped numbers on the machined surface next to the distributor and also the engine casting number found down low, passenger side at the front of the block.

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Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321820 Wed Aug 14 2019 11:15 AM
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Welcome, nice to have another 4 eyed truck in the crowd. My 59' was originally a 235 but had a 283 V8 in it when I got it. The 283 had a home built front cradle mount to make use if the in line six mounting point. There where no provisions for side mounts on the frame. The 235 front engine mount is fairly common and shouldn't be to hard to locate. As Mike said your block should be drilled for the front mounts.

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Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321824 Wed Aug 14 2019 12:22 PM
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Welcome KY59. I will be following this thread. I have a 54 3100 and a spare 58 235 engine. I am curious to see what challenges/solutions are identified.

I am fairly close to you. I am in Kenton County KY.


Dave from Northern Kentucky
My 54 3100
Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321835 Wed Aug 14 2019 02:03 PM
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Ky59apache Offline OP
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I was told the motor came out of a ‘54 car. I will look for the bombers this evening.

Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321836 Wed Aug 14 2019 02:25 PM
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Some spray-oiler 235's had side mounts as early as 1950, the ones used with Powerglide automatics. I've got a 1950 Chevy Bel Air out back with that setup, and it's currently running a non-original 216, also with side mounts. The steel timing cover plate can be drilled for bird leg mounts and bolted in just like any other 235, or the plate can be changed for one with the mounting holes already there. Changing it is a HUGE job, which involves removing the camshaft.
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Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Hotrod Lincoln] #1321878 Wed Aug 14 2019 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
Some spray-oiler 235's had side mounts as early as 1950, the ones used with Powerglide automatics. I've got a 1950 Chevy Bel Air out back with that setup, and it's currently running a non-original 216, also with side mounts.
Jerry


Can you post a picture of these side motor mounts? I've never seen a pre-1958 block with castings for side mounts!

Thanks,

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Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321899 Thu Aug 15 2019 12:06 AM
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CON 3. C 14

3835911

These are the numbers I found on the block. It did come with a power glide tranny which will be looking for a new home if anyone is interested! Lol. Not sure how to post pics on here yet. I’ll need my wife’s help with that! Lol.

Dave, maybe we could just trade motors!! Lol.

There are no mounting holes on the front of the block.

Re: Old engine new truck [Re: Ky59apache] #1321913 Thu Aug 15 2019 02:02 AM
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3835911 is a 1954/55 235 block casting number.

CON 3 is the foundry conveyor number.

C 1 4 is the date code...March 1, 1954

The serial number is machine stamped on the smooth machined pad next to the distributor...you may need a wire brush to reveal the numbers...this will tell us if it was born in a car or truck.

Mike B smile

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