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Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1311596 Thu May 23 2019 05:02 AM
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Front end removed. (Looks like I need to buy more jack stands...) The springs may be salvageable but the front axle is shot methinks. It looks bent and the slop in the kingpins is ridiculous. So I will have to make a trip to my parts truck on the farm for an axle. That one should be ok with new kingpins and a home job. Time will tell. But I do believe I can refurbish all the springs in this truck and reuse them in order to save about $1000. My time is free...ish. Haha!

Frame: 24.5
Box: 22
Sheet: 3
Total: 49.5

🦊😎🦇🕷🕸
I could have used some bats and spiders around me tonight. The mosquitoes were in swarms around me. I was spraying bug spray, brake cleaner, acetone, everything, anything, and those little buggers kept coming in SWARMS. Terrible. They ruined an actually pretty fun time wrenching tonight.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fTCPVZ4GTG39Nutq8

Last edited by Fox; Fri May 24 2019 12:20 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1312291 Wed May 29 2019 05:08 AM
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Original front end partially disassembled.
Parts truck front end removed in preparation for clean up, inspection, and part swapping. It actually looks pretty good. Rusty but good.

Frame:26 hours
Total: 51 hours



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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1312974 Mon Jun 03 2019 05:04 AM
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I have broken down the original front end. The axle is shot but most of what’s left is ok. I ripped off the brake components and have them in a box. I sandblasted the rear brake pieces like the parking brake strut, etc. I ordered new springs for the rear guts as well. I sandblasted the front tie rod connecting arms and steering arm and painted them black. I also pressed out the old kingpins on the bent axle. The knuckles/spindles are in pretty good shape considering the slop that was in them. I think new bushings will suffice, but if the parts truck’s spindles are in better shape I will use them.

I only have these pictures to show for all that work! Maybe I’ll snap some more. I love doing this stuff. It’s instant gratification compared to beating your head against a wall (or a cancerous door from a 1970 C10).

Frame: 30
Box: 22
Sheet: 3
Total: 55
😎🦊

https://photos.app.goo.gl/oXVLALprCzp5UgiL8



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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1314055 Wed Jun 12 2019 04:46 AM
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I have been sand blasting more parts and have blasted the knuckles, front backing plates and spacer cylinders for the knuckle/backing plate mounting. I then had to reweld the shoe sliding surfaces on the backing plates as the had some pretty good ridges and I figured, being this far in, I may as well build them up and grind ‘em down smooth. Then I shot them in a coat of gloss black. I removed a couple broken lug studs from the front hubs and separated the hub from the old drum. I will bolt the new ones on as Jerry has suggested using a countersink bit. I pressed out the old bearing races in preparation to blast the hubs for thread tapping and paint, then install the new races/bearings.

Next, I began tearing into the parts truck axle to get the straight axle out of it. Thankfully it looks really straight. I might use one of its knuckles as one of my original knuckles may be wallowed out. I’ll see when I test fit pieces as Grigg suggested to me in the Driveline forum. I cut off the old UBolts, the tie rods and pounded out the remaining pieces. Then it was time to come in for the night. School night, ya know.

Frame: 33
Box: 22
Sheet: 3
Total: 58 hours
🦊😎

So far things are going so smoothly on this part of the truck. Oops. Maybe I shouldn’t have said that!


Last edited by Fox; Wed Jun 12 2019 04:47 AM.


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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1314641 Mon Jun 17 2019 06:16 PM
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I have the parts axle torn down, but still have to remove the kingpins. The one spindle has a large gouge in it from a spun bearing race, so it is shot. I had to finally cut it out with a die grinder. It was a dirty bugger. Thankfully, the other side looks OK, so between the two trucks I should be able to have two good spindles/knuckles. I had to separate the lug stud backing plate on the back of the hub as it was so full of junk and crud that I couldn't justify trying to simply wash and paint it. So I pressed out all the lug studs, then cleaned and blasted the hub and plates. I cut new gaskets (I was surprised to find them in there to be honest) and then painted the pieces. I also painted the rubber spring bumpers, springs caster shims, and some more brake pieces. I am looking forward to starting the build up. Working with clean, painted, shiny parts is so much fun. I still have to:

1. Disassemble springs and refurbish them by removing rust scale, ridges, gouges, etc. Paint and reassemble.
2. Pull the parts axle's kingpins, blast it, paint it.
2. Blast the rear axle housing and modify it for an open driveshaft.


Once this little escapade is over, I'm going to jump back into the '70 C10 door fiasco for a little bit. Hopefully I can get the sheet metal work on that truck done this summer.

Frame: 38
Box: 22
Sheet: 3
Total: 63 hours
🦊😎

https://photos.app.goo.gl/69Psoko48F1VP4eF9


Last edited by Fox; Mon Jun 17 2019 06:17 PM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1316248 Tue Jul 02 2019 05:56 AM
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I have the parts axle completely bare and awaiting a blast and paint. Then, I disassembled the front leaf packs and took out the rough spots and ridges, and then scuffed and painted them. I have one assembled but I still have to figure out the clinch clips as I cut them off to disassemble the leaves. I might just weld on some little extensions and then bolt them together like the spring packs on the one tons.

I went to one of my parts trucks and picked off some rear fenders. Between the two sets of fenders, I should be able to make one decent set of rear fenders. The blue ones were bolted to a seriously heavy duty bumper, likely installed by a PO who likes 3/8” checker plate, that I had to torch out! The bad part is that the PO drilled multiple holes in the fenders and then cut the lower couple inches off the back of the fenders to have them sit flush to the crazy bumper! I have a lot of steel work to do in the fenders, but at least they will be steel and original fenders, not reproductions. Work is going slowly but steady here at “Fox Rods!” Hahaha! Of course things go slowly when you work alone and have two kids under two years old!

My father in law brought over his ‘48 Fargo the other day. Everett helped Papa clean out the cab and box to prep it for the Canada Day Show and Shine. It was fun, but for naught. It absolutely POURED buckets of rain on the show today. Ugh. It was fun driving in the rain but no one stuck around to see the show and the festivities all around town basically shut down as people headed home early because of the rain.

Frame: 40
Box: 23
Sheet: 3
Total: 66 hours
🦊😎

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2RkJ2PYMpB8Gibgg9



In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1317187 Wed Jul 10 2019 04:59 AM
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I’ve been pretty busy this week. Playing with and chasing Everett around, helping Mama Bear with baby Eliza, weeding the garden and beds, yard work, removing trees for my little old lady neighbour (she pays me in expired Vintage Truck, Antique Power magazines that she gets free from work and cookies!), helping dad with his bobcat and car brakes, shingle quotes for our roof, but somehow I’ve been getting in time on the trucks in the late evening. I better thank my wife for that! 😉 It’s cute now because Everett has really taken a liking to this 1300. When he sees it he says, “ Everett’s ...chruck (truck).” One day bud! I wonder if his sister will want the C10 one day?

I welded on the extensions on the clinch clips on the springs and then drilled holes for bolts. I cut stainless tube as a roller to put over the bolt. The springs look great and should be good for a long while still. I removed the bushings from the frame for the front spring shackles. They were a bear to get out, oh boy. I then pressed in new bearings as well. I cleaned up some areas with a wire wheel and cleaner and then simply painted areas with Rustoleum gloss black. I’m going this route on this truck frame’s underpinnings for simplicity, price, ease of touch up, etc; plus when the cab and box are off I’m going to get my nephew to help me paint the frame. I think he will like that. He’s 8 years old.

I pressed out the old rear axle studs and cleaned, blasted, painted, prepped the pieces and installed new studs as the old ones were heavily worn around their circumference.

I took the “new,” straight, parts front straight axle, tie rod, and the rear axle housing to my pal’s and blasted them. They turned out great. I painted them with gloss black and let them dry. Then I greased the kingpin thrust bearings and then assembled the king pins and spindles on the axle. It went very well, except I had to redo one side as it had too much gap and had to be shimmed 0.003 to be within spec.

Then the fun stuff!! I installed the front springs, front axle, backing plates, steering arms, spindles, shocks, packed bearings, installed hubs and wheel cylinders. Things are flying off the counter now! It is going very well and it is very enjoyable.

I envy those builders who are able to sidetrack rust, irritation, rebuilding, refurbishing, cussing and time spent by using brand new parts on everything. I had to get some parts new (because they were toast) but I do get great satisfaction after all the effort to see the original pieces going back on the truck. I often tell the old truck, “Be patient. You’ll be right straight again soon.” Straight, clean, painted, shiny. Woooo doggy! I swear sometimes I hear it say, “I know.”

As Martin says, “There is no cure!”

Frame: 54
Box: 23
Sheet: 3
Total: 80
😎🦊
I thought I would include a photo of my shop whiteboard showing where I track my hours every time I pick something up on this truck. It was from a couple nights ago. 😉

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fwaCRmF2jVUn1Xhf8



Last edited by Fox; Mon Jul 15 2019 04:26 AM.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1320839 Wed Aug 07 2019 05:39 AM
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It has been a while but I had my roof reshingled and have been hampered heavily by extensive rains in July. The ground simply can’t soak up any more. We have had 22 days of rain in July. Brutal. Even the high ground is squishing and squishing. After the roof, I have been trying to refascia the eaves and replace the eavestroughing, in between rain storms of course. In addition, my wife and I have been doing some family, summer time, holiday stuff. I had plans to attend a couple truck shows in this time, but no luck. We’ve just been too busy.

But this is what has been happening on this truck: usually late at night. I bet the neighbours think I’m weird.
1. Front brakes installed.
2. 1962 3.90 open rear end cleaned, inspected, lined, reassembled, and reinstalled in the housing.
3. Rear axles disassembled, inspected, cleaned and reinstalled.
4. Rear drums prepped and painted.
5. Rear braking assemblies completed, rebuilt, refurbished, replaced, installed.
6. Everything requiring paint, blasted and painted.
7. Rear springs disassembled, inspected, cleaned, painted, reassembled.

It has been a slow slog on this rear end.
My rear bushings for the springs and relocation kit have arrived from CP.

Now, I am going to rant here a little about Classic Parts. On May 27, I ordered a rear suspension relocation kit from them so I didn’t have to fab up anything to reposition that axle housing. Simple. Well, the piece was drop shipped, meaning they don’t actually have that item. They have to get it from a supplier, mark it up, and send it to me.

Ok. So, along with my bushing and shackles, my total was $238 US. Plus shipping. Ok I can eat a bit more shipping for no fab up or thinking.

Well, I checked in and my order had been on hold for nearly a month to make sure I wanted the relocation item. Frick. Yes. Please send it.

Well, the shipping is more now, because the manufacturer ships it to CP, and then they pass on this cost to the consumer. Grr. $440 US. What?! $200? Frick. Are you serious or retarded?

By this point I’m irritated and seriously contemplated telling them to stuff it and keep all the pieces, I’ll go elsewhere and get helped there, but I didn’t. So I pulled the trigger and said yes.

My package arrived today and on top of all that I had to pay a COD to receive the parts. $80! Another unexpected shipping charge. Frick.

Brutal CP. BRUTAL. After that fiasco, they should have delivered them in person and apologized.

My parts: 2 tie rod ends, 2 rear shackles, and a relocation kit for the rear axle:

Total cost: $662.00 Canadian. For those little parts.
Unbelievable. I am not using CP anymore simply because it seems every time I do, I get fudged on shipping. BIG TIME.

If they don’t have the item in stock, go elsewhere using vendors, people. Check locally. I am from now on and will only order stuff like that if I can’t find it locally or can’t build it myself. 😡

Rant over. Live and learn.


Pictures:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fEgUJvdhDNBBWs998

Box: 23
Frame: 71
Sheet: 3
Total: 97 hours

🤬🦊



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1950 Chevrolet 1300 (Cdn) Build [Re: Fox] #1321304 Sat Aug 10 2019 04:30 AM
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Today I cut the old torque tube mounting pivots off my axle housing. I pressed in the bushings for the rear springs in both the spring eye and the frame eye. I then installed the rear springs. I bolted up the rear conversion kit from Classic Parts that actually came from Classic Performance Products- CPP (Write that down people). I still have to set the pinion angle, but I might wait until I have the engine and tranny mocked into place to ensure an accurate measurement to each other. So as of tonight, the 1300 is back on 4 wheels and seems to be sitting a lot higher up than before because of the rebuilt springs, new bushings, etc. I still need my tie rod ends so I can easily move it around. Grrrr...

I had to remove the left brake drum as it was tight as a son of o gun and I’m not sure why. I wonder if the little wheel adjuster got mixed up with the wrong parts when I was blasting things. It is like the shoes are in the expanded state. The right is just like the left and it isn’t hung up. Weird. I have to dig a bit more.

Late this evening I took the baby monitor and went into the shop while my wife went for a walk. I pulled the old stomp starter bellhousing off my original 235 low pressure, which runs decently by the way, and I suspect it would run like a sewing machine if I replaced that broken rocker arm on #4. But I will be mating the housing to a 57 261 so I figured I may as well begin prepping things. I then pulled out of the shed a T5 that I removed from of an ‘86 S10 about 4 years ago for this exact project that got sidelined by the 1 ton and Grandpa’s C10 (Oh yeah! I got to get back to work on that one too!). I really can’t believe how easily GM made matching up parts. I drilled out the holes in the tranny to 1/2” and it slid right up just like all the reading I’ve done said. I will change the input shaft as per the Bolt’s tech tip to use the original clutch, pressure plate, etc. The original shaft has some slop, as does the output, so a compete rebuild will be necessary. Today was a decent day wrenching.

Box: 23
Frame: 73.5
Sheet: 3
Total: 99.5

😎🦊

It’s scary to think that at $100/hour shop rate, I’d have $10,000 sunk into this truck in labour... Yeesh. I don’t think Mama Bear would let that one slide!
She’s not a show stopper, but I’m happy with my work.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qQuXeeW3dM6ifHkL8



In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1953 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
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