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Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321146 Fri Aug 09 2019 03:14 AM
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If you change the tie rods, you would have to change the tie rod too. I see in the LMC catalog that the '60 to '63 four wheel drive trucks have a similar setup as I have. (as far as tie rod and tie rod ends go)

It was a long time ago that I worked on the chassis, but I seem to remember wondering why my tie rod ends were different than what other people were talking about...


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Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321149 Fri Aug 09 2019 03:36 AM
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But if the ends have been changed, they must have changed the actual tie rod too. It seems weird also that the trucks I’ve had over these years have had the exact same parts. Something is screwy here, because I have never seen a female ended tie rod end on any of my trucks. My 1 ton has male ended tie rod ends too.

The steering arms on my truck don’t have the ball but the holes only.

I’m guessing as well like Gord, is this a Canadian thing?

Others please share what you have.

As always, I appreciate the help and input fellas.

Last edited by Fox; Fri Aug 09 2019 03:39 AM.

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Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: tclederman] #1321152 Fri Aug 09 2019 05:08 AM
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That's so you can loosen the two clamp bolts and turn the tie rod to shorten/lengthen the tie rod overall length and adjust toe-in.
In the modern type that Fox posted, with male ends, there's usually a sleeve with left and right hand threads to accomplish the same purpose.

Last edited by klhansen; Fri Aug 09 2019 05:09 AM.

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Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321156 Fri Aug 09 2019 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fox
But if the ends have been changed, they must have changed the actual tie rod too. It seems weird also that the trucks I’ve had over these years have had the exact same parts. Something is screwy here, because I have never seen a female ended tie rod end on any of my trucks. My 1 ton has male ended tie rod ends too.

The steering arms on my truck don’t have the ball but the holes only.

I’m guessing as well like Gord, is this a Canadian thing?

Others please share what you have.

As always, I appreciate the help and input fellas.


My Canadian 44 1/2 ton is exactly as yours is and it was driving me crazy to find new tie rod ends. Thought my steering arms were 3/4 ton since they didn’t have have the straight hole and were tapered to accept the screw in tapered ball stud. Let me know if you find the right tie rod end as I went thru specs of some manufacturers and couldn’t find one short enough.


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Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321162 Fri Aug 09 2019 11:50 AM
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The 1954 Canadian Chevrolet and GMC Maintenance Manual shows the "sealed" tie-rod ends, not the adjustable tie-rod ends used on USA light trucks.


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Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321178 Fri Aug 09 2019 02:09 PM
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Perhaps the Canadian 1/2 tons used the "heavier duty" tie rod ends as shown in figure 4 here:
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1954truck/54ctsm0303.html

Ordering tie rod ends for the (say) 1 tons should fit the 1/2 tons?


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Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321181 Fri Aug 09 2019 02:48 PM
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They look to be the same, as Gord suggests.

Does anyone have a Canadian GM truck parts catalog?


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1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: tclederman] #1321204 Fri Aug 09 2019 05:08 PM
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Bill39568 Offline
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Originally Posted by tclederman
They look to be the same, as Gord suggests.

Does anyone have a Canadian GM truck parts catalog?


I have a 42-56 and will check later and post if anyone wants. I remember looking up the part numbers and googling them and could find no images.

Last edited by Bill39568; Sat Aug 10 2019 05:12 PM. Reason: Wrong years posted

44 Canadian chevy 1/2 ton
Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321325 Sat Aug 10 2019 02:45 PM
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Fox Offline OP
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Yes, please.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 1/2 ton tie rod ends for an AD [Re: Fox] #1321333 Sat Aug 10 2019 05:11 PM
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Bill39568 Offline
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So the book is 42-56 truck parts catalogue for Canada.

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