The Stovebolt Page Forums Home | FAQ | Forum | Swap Meet | Gallery | Tech Tips | Events | Features | Search | Hoo-Ya Shop
Work those trucks!




Stovebolt is pleased to support the Salvation Army!
We're doing fine but many around the World are not. Instead of making a contribution to us this holiday season, how about making your contribution to a great organization with a long history of helping people in need around the world?

Stovebolt Site Search
 
Old Truck Calendars
Months of truck photos!
Nothing like an old truck calendar

Stovebolt Calendars

Check for details!


Who's Online Now
14 registered members (Chris's 46 / 515, glenns towing, 68ironhead, cmayna, Canadian_guy, 55mater), 382 guests, and 3 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums48
Topics116,492
Posts929,925
Members42,644
Most Online940
Apr 5th, 2017
Image Posting Policy
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
52 3600 Bed Assembly Help #1319153 Thu Jul 25 2019 04:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 9
M
Michael DB Offline OP
New Guy
Trying to install a new bed wood kit and not sure what is going on with regards to the holes that came pre-drilled in the outermost boards of 4 1/4. Never had this truck assembled yet. As you can tell from the attached picture the rear most hole of the two in the board that the hole does not have anything to bolt to below one forward of the hole in the view is perfectly line up with cross sill. And of course the rear sill does not allow me to install a cross sill to mount a bolt through, what is missing or out of place here, spent may hours staring at it with no idea what could be wrong . Certainly appreciate any feedback I can get.

Thanks in Advance


MIke

Attached Files
Bed Wood.JPG (22.83 KB, 106 downloads)
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319156 Thu Jul 25 2019 05:02 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,534
F
Fox Offline
Shop Shark
Mike,
Here are some pictures of my ‘51-53 style bed. Granted it is a 1 ton but it might provide some insight. The 1 ton frame rails are straight to the back (I believe 3/4 are the same). The 1/2 ton rails flare out considerably toward the back as they leave the cab area. I think you might have one of these problems:
1. The board is in the wrong place. Spin it 180 and put it on the left bedside. But if it’s like my one ton it still won’t line up...
2. You have 1/2 ton boards. My pictures of my 1/2 ton, before I disassembled it, show the offset washer holes on the outer board. But I assume your boards fit the box length, so this is unlikely.
3. The supplier drilled 1/2 ton holes in a 3/4 ton length bed wood kit.

If you look at the pictures, the shiny black bed is the one ton. Bed bolts are in a straight line on the 2nd board.
The old rotten, crusty box is the 1/2 ton. You can see that some of bed bolts are on the outside on the outer board. Warning though, this is actually a sheet of plywood the PO put in, so I believe the rear most bolt is absent.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/irLgZWSwgmTRVoqJ9

Questions for you:
Do you have pictures of all the wood? Lay it out in order and show us some measurements. If the supplier screwed up drilling ( or heaven forbid, if you did ! 😉), it will be very apparent to 3/4 truckers.

Is your box homemade? Is the cross sill at the rear an actual 3/4 ton cross sill?

Is that 4 1/4” the entire width of the board? If it is, I’m thinking the supplier messed up. But like i said, give us more info before you jump the gun! It’s better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak a remove all doubt! Get your facts lined up and then decide what to do. This has saved me lots of embarrassment in the past!

Get in touch with Brad Allen on Stovebolt here. He can definitely help you out. If he can’t, he will point you in the right direction. I hope this helps.



Last edited by Fox; Thu Jul 25 2019 05:12 AM.

In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319157 Thu Jul 25 2019 05:03 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,561
K
klhansen Offline
Shop Shark
Not sure, but it's possible your angle strip is too far back. I don't believe it's supposed to lap over the rear cross sill portion that's flush with the top of the bed wood, but should be lined up with the vertical ledge just forward of that.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319158 Thu Jul 25 2019 05:15 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,534
F
Fox Offline
Shop Shark
KL also has a point. I home built mine and had my strip flush like he described and I had to die grind a few bolt holes to get it to line up perfectly. I wasn’t about to remove all those spot welds and start over.

Here’s a picture from Brad’s 3/4 build. It show the location of the bed wood and its corresponding mounting holes. The mounting holes are on the second board all the way back.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/8129182723/in/album-72157631867396207/

Last edited by Fox; Thu Jul 25 2019 05:18 AM.

In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319186 Thu Jul 25 2019 01:49 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,534
F
Fox Offline
Shop Shark
I just thought of this: did you buy the correct year boards? 51-53 boards are different from 47-50. Chevy switched from 9 boards to 8 boards mid year 51.


In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here

1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually—-Shiny!

1970 Chevrolet C10 - Grandpa’s- My first truck.—in progress to shiny
1972 Chevrolet C20- rusted
1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban—rusted.
1950 Chevrolet 1300- in progress to shiny.

Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300
1951-GMC 9430
1951- Chevrolet 1300
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319227 Thu Jul 25 2019 08:58 PM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,561
K
klhansen Offline
Shop Shark
According to this website the outer boards were always 4-1/4" on AD trucks.

There's also a difference in frame width, and accordingly cross sills between 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton pickups. Maybe you have a 1/2 ton bed wood set on a 3/4 ton truck. That would explain the non-aligned rear mounting holes. I originally thought you were referring to that hole in the angle strip on top of the rear sill, but that still may be a problem.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319233 Thu Jul 25 2019 09:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 28,886
tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
50” width on all beds in 1954, and supposedly that was the width in the earlier beds that had different shape/height bedsides and tailgates than in 1954 and later.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319242 Fri Jul 26 2019 12:02 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,561
K
klhansen Offline
Shop Shark
Tim, I was referring to the rear cross-sill to frame location in reference to that 50 inch bed width. Like you said, the bed inside width was the same for all AD pickups.
The 1/2 tons with wider frame at the rear would have the rear cross sill mounting points farther apart to match the frame width, and the 3/4 tons with narrower frame would have a different rear cross sill with narrow spaced mounting points. The frame difference was about a foot, which would put the 3/4 ton bed mounting bolts about 6 inches farther inboard on each side.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319277 Fri Jul 26 2019 04:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 9
M
Michael DB Offline OP
New Guy
I want to thank all that replied to my request for the help with the bed. I was on the phone today with the mfg of the bed wood kit that I am having the first issue with which is in the picture with the lack of the place to bolt the 4 1/4 inch board. I was assured that the drill sheet spec matched up with my 1952 3600 truck and unless something was modified on the bed/frame that it should work out. This evening after I got home from work went out to garage and gave another attempt at figuring it out but the only thing I did for myself was to raise more questions.

With regard to the angle strips extending beyond the rear lip on the rear sill, I thought it did not either look right or serve any functional purpose, confused there as prior to removing my old ones I marked the ends of them with a marker at each end them went about cutting them off . New ones went right back in place to the marks withing a 1/16 of an inch, Hmmmmm ? Just the other day in looking for info on line I came across a bed build log on a truck site which showed the exact situation that I have with the angle strips extending over the rear sill and coming up short at the front panel, really confused at more than one issue on this bed stuff. So far the only thing I am confident of is that the width is 50" and the length is 85 3/4.

If and when I ever solve this mess I will put together a nice package of pictures, measurements and very concise directions to hopefully help anyone else with these headaches.

Thanks again and I will definitely be updating this thread as progress and info becomes available, hopefully .

By the way my board kit is made up of 8 boards 4/14" (2) , 5" (2), 7 1/4 (4)



Mike

Re: 52 3600 Bed Assembly Help [Re: Michael DB] #1319279 Fri Jul 26 2019 05:03 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,561
K
klhansen Offline
Shop Shark
Put both outside boards in place and measure between the mounting holes. If they're 46" apart, you've got a 1/2 ton bed kit, or at least drilled to fit on a 1/2 ton.
I would lay everything out on the ground and send the supplier photos of what you have, with tape measures showing the critical dimensions. If they messed up, they should make it right for you.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Home | FAQ | Forum | Swap Meet | Gallery | Tech Tips | Events | Features | Search | Hoo-Ya Shop
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3