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62 K20
#1318719 Sun Jul 21 2019 11:51 PM
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Hey guys, I just joined the forum because I got myself this project truck and I thought I might post progress pics and pick your brains once in a while. I think everything is original on it except for the bed which came from a donor because it used to have a flatbed on it. I plan on keeping it mostly original, but I've already scrapped the generator and put an alternator on it. I'm also going to upgrade the brakes by installing a booster with two reservoirs in the master cyl. Other than that, I'm just gonna make it perdy, but it's gonna need at least one door and floors and rockers on both sides. Also discovered that the cab roof is rotted inside right above the windshield. I've been a mechanic long enough to know better, but I still say I'm going to enjoy every minute.


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1318730 Mon Jul 22 2019 12:16 AM
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Very nice. Original 283?


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1318760 Mon Jul 22 2019 02:11 AM
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Very nice indeed. Glad to have you in the group.


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1318764 Mon Jul 22 2019 02:26 AM
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The grill and 20 emblems suggest your truck is a 1962

Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1318769 Mon Jul 22 2019 04:01 AM
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Thanks, I'm pretty sure the 283 is original, and I thought I had seen a placard somewhere with the model year 1963. I'll have to verify that when I get home a week and a half from now. But indeed, the grill and the hyd. clutch have me wondering, I didn't know about the emblems....

Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1318800 Mon Jul 22 2019 03:40 PM
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Welcome! It doesn't matter if it's all original, you have a gem in your possession. Nice find. The hood isn't stock to that year, but again, it doesn't matter, it is technically period correct.


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1318806 Mon Jul 22 2019 03:59 PM
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nice truck,you will find plenty of help here

Re: 63 K20
DoubleDingo #1318849 Mon Jul 22 2019 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleDingo
The hood isn't stock to that year, but again, it doesn't matter, it is technically period correct.

Hood is correct for '62 - '66. '60 & '61 used different hood.
As JoeK stated has '62 emblems & grill.

Last edited by BC59; Mon Jul 22 2019 08:21 PM.

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1949 GMC 250 project in waiting
1960 C60 pasture art
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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1318929 Tue Jul 23 2019 09:08 AM
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sweet truck, welcome!

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Re: 63 K20
BC59 #1318982 Tue Jul 23 2019 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BC59
Hood is correct for '62 - '66. '60 & '61 used different hood.
As JoeK stated has '62 emblems & grill.


Yeah, I was mistaken, I thought it was '60 - '63.


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1319018 Wed Jul 24 2019 12:13 AM
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Is there another version of stock guage cluster that has guages instead of idiot lights? And the inside roof repair,I haven't found any patch panels for that, do you guys know of any source for those, or am I going to have to cut up a donor?

Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1319020 Wed Jul 24 2019 12:27 AM
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63 is idiot lights. They are more practical than gauges. Unless you are a gauge watcher. Which I am not. Idiot lights come on at start to verify bulb, then go off. If you go gauges you will probably have to change senders. I think the various clusters physically fit 60-66.

Don't see an inner upper patch for 63. Start looking for a donor or use the cutout for a template. Can be made of several hand made pieces. Might save scrap that way.
Provide good clear pics of that area of you want suggestions on fix. There are some pretty good metalmen on here.


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1319025 Wed Jul 24 2019 01:20 AM
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I have seen cut ups on ebay. Saw the panel recently on ebay in fact.


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1319029 Wed Jul 24 2019 01:31 AM
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I would be tempted to modify the 64-66 patch panel if it wasn't so expensive. 60-63 has the wrap around windshield. 64-66 has the flat windshield. If a looked carefully at both trucks, I could decide if the available patch could work.

North of you:
https://kalispell.craigslist.org/pts/d/columbia-falls-huge-classic-car-and/6936657367.html


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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1319041 Wed Jul 24 2019 03:20 AM
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Thanks bartamos!

Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1319044 Wed Jul 24 2019 03:32 AM
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smile wave


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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1319079 Wed Jul 24 2019 03:42 PM
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Called home and got the vin # and it is definitely a 62' k20 and the fifth number is a 3 indicating that it was built and sold as a cab and chassis. I'm grateful that the guy I bought it from found such a nice bed for it.

Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1319091 Wed Jul 24 2019 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bsarts
Is there another version of stock guage cluster that has guages instead of idiot lights?


They came either way, will fit from '60 - '63.


BC
1960 Chevy C10 driver 235 T5 3.73 dana 44
1949 GMC 250 project in waiting
1960 C60 pasture art
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Re: 63 K20
DoubleDingo #1324761 Tue Sep 03 2019 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BC59
Hood is correct for '62 - '66. '60 & '61 used different hood.
As JoeK stated has '62 emblems & grill.

Originally Posted by DoubleDingo

Yeah, I was mistaken, I thought it was '60 - '63.

That's an easy mixup. Because 60-63 all had the upside down wing windows, and the windshield to match. So it's easy to think all the changes were then (at '63). smile

Chris


'64 Chev C20 LWB stepside ( Ol'Blue )
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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1324762 Tue Sep 03 2019 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bsarts
Is there another version of stock guage cluster that has guages instead of idiot lights? And the inside roof repair,I haven't found any patch panels for that, do you guys know of any source for those, or am I going to have to cut up a donor?

For sure, any 60-66 door, or door "patch" panel will work exactly the same. Easy to find pretty much everywhere.

Good find!

Chris


'64 Chev C20 LWB stepside ( Ol'Blue )
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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1326131 Sat Sep 14 2019 12:07 PM
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Thanks, Chris, but I was looking for roof panels, not door panels.

Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1333156 Sun Nov 10 2019 12:13 AM
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Just found this thread, nice truck.

I have a 62 K10 that I put power brakes in, first I found an original booster then later I put on one with a split system from a 71 3/4 ton, bolted right up. I have an automatic so the clutch master was not a problem with the later booster but I am pretty sure that the mechanical clutch linkage from later trucks will bolt right in with the correct selection of parts. That way you can keep your manual trans if you want to and still use a later booster. I put on front discs from the later truck at the same time, 1/2 ton, not 3/4.

Hope things are going well.


Mac :{)

1962 K10 short step side, much modified for rally
1969 T50 fire truck, almost nos, needs a few things
Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1333319 Mon Nov 11 2019 02:18 PM
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Thanks, that's good to know that a later model brake booster will bolt right up, that would save me a lot of money. I'll research the mechanical linkage swap possibilities. Looks like I'll be sticking with drums all the way around as I don't see any kits for a 3/4 ton. I just got my other project out of the way so I'm gonna start in on some body work when I get home.

Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1343542 Sat Jan 25 2020 05:09 AM
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Finally getting around to getting this thing fixed up, bangin on some dents while waiting for parts to show up. The grill and grill support both need help, I didn't see that the grill support was full of bondo until I got into it, but it's coming along. The shape of the thing makes it real hard to get access to both side of any given dent and I had to utilize all kinds of field expedient body tools like, ax heads and pry bars, and pieces of plywood. I really like a good chunk of hickory ax handle as a punch.

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1343543 Sat Jan 25 2020 05:16 AM
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Took a break from the grill support and started on the hood and found more surprise bondo.

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1343545 Sat Jan 25 2020 05:21 AM
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I set out to tackle the deep dents at the center, but uncovered more and some holes off to the right...

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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1343614 Sat Jan 25 2020 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bsarts
Is there another version of stock guage cluster that has guages instead of idiot lights? And the inside roof repair,I haven't found any patch panels for that, do you guys know of any source for those, or am I going to have to cut up a donor?


They can be found if you search hard enough. I found a cluster from a "Big Bolt" that fit right in. Only give away that it is from a Big Bolt is the Air gauge and the Over Speed indicator light. I will eventually be replacing the Air gauge with a Vacuum gauge and I'm not going to worry about the Over Speed light. It's not hooked up to anything so it won't show unless you know what you're looking for.

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Re: 63 K20
62Stick #1343971 Tue Jan 28 2020 03:52 AM
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Thanks, Stick, I'm on the lookout for one of those big bolts.

I've been working away with a planishing hammer on the hood and I think it's about as good as I can get it. I learned a lot about stretching the dents out with a hammer and dolly when the dent is on a radius. I don't get out much, but I was actually having fun.

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Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1344078 Wed Jan 29 2020 12:56 AM
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I like the style of those trucks.

A wise man once told me. Don't take the paint off that old truck, because you won't like what you find.


Another quality post.


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HELP! The Paranoids are after me!
Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1344112 Wed Jan 29 2020 05:19 AM
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Ha! Too true!

Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1344282 Thu Jan 30 2020 03:07 PM
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Ha. If you decide to make your way to Pa, and want to continue the fun, I have a hood that you can beat on for a few days. Lol

Re: 63 K20
bsarts #1344415 Fri Jan 31 2020 04:52 AM
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Well........ I don't know if it's THAT fun....

Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1344478 Fri Jan 31 2020 09:26 PM
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Well look me up if you change your mind. thumbs_up

Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1344955 Tue Feb 04 2020 02:51 PM
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Hi Bsarts,
LMC sells roof panels for 60-66 chevy trucks. The roof lines are the same in all these years, the windshields and pillars are not. Doors/pillars/windshields are the same for 60-63 only and 64-66 are the same for their respective styles.

https://www.lmctruck.com/body-components/body-panels

See the link or path above for reference or just google it too.

Usually it's the inner panel that rots out near the rear view mirror location.

I did a couple of these trucks, they are fun to do and you'll like it when it's done. Key is like anything: money, time and space. I had a crap load of the parts you needed, but sold most of them.

Cheers.

Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1348176 Fri Feb 28 2020 07:00 AM
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Thanks RYD, I read where someone used the 64-66 inner roof panel on a 62 and it worked out fine so I got one with the batch of panels that I ordered from Classicparts.com. But my experience with them is to be less than ideal. I put in the drivers' side outer floor panel and then noticed that it's all screwed up. The bottom edge of it is not correct and will not mate up with the outer rocker. I tried to get a little restitution from Classicparts and got nowhere. The fact that I just spent a thousand bucks onpanels from them and sent pics and measurements illustrating how defective their product was got me no leverage at all. I'm done with those people.

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1348177 Fri Feb 28 2020 07:08 AM
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Then I started on the drivers' door skin and bottom replacement and screwed up my own job. I botched it up badly when I transferred the marks and cut out the bottom of the door and ended up with a huge gap but managed to save it by using a piece of copper as abacker for the welds and planishing them after each weld and it worked out well. I didn't get a pic of the finished product before I left home for work so I won't be able to show that for a couple weeks yet.

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1363576 Fri Jun 05 2020 04:54 AM
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Well, I had a bit of a set-back,but was able to come back and make some good progress. I decided that the best way to remedy the inner rocker issue was to cut out the front half of it and the floor panel inner rocker portion would replace it. So I got the die-grinder and cut it out and, and as I was trying to pull the front portion of the outer floor panel out from behind the lower pillar, I learned the hard way about the burr that a cut-off wheel will leave on the bottom edge of the metal as the piece I was reefing on broke loose and my hand hit the burr and it cut through my glove and through the tendon behind the little finger knuckle. 8 weeks of recovery time later and I'm back at work, but I did manage to use some of my time off to get some work done on it.

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1363685 Sat Jun 06 2020 01:00 PM
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I decided to tackle the roof above the windshield. They don't make a patch panel specifically for the pre 64s and I knew that the 64 and later patches would work with some extra effort and I think I made the right choice in not trying to utilize both ends of the patch with the sunvisor holes. I cut out about a foot from the pass. side where metal was good and had more freedom with modifying the dr. side end at the corner. I read the other threads that detailed the roof skin removal and was curious as to what I'd find in the way of mouse nests,( with this being a north Montana ranchers' truck and all). I didn't have a mouse house, I had a mousy condominium complex, complete with a deceased former resident. Now I know why the original seat was replaced, because all the stuffing got tore out and put into the roof! It was kind of a nasty job cleaning it out because of the several decades worth of mouse poo packed into the seam above the windshield, also dangerous because that dried out stuff can make you sicker than hell if you breathe in the dust.

Anyway, I got the inner and outer pieces put in and had to fab a little piece for the pillar beyond where the roof patch would reach, it looked kinda rough before it went in but, considering my abilities and experience, I was pretty proud of it, it filled the hole and looked pretty good when it was welded in. I cleaned up under the roof skin and painted it with some rust converter and put some insulation up there and welded it back down.

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1363688 Sat Jun 06 2020 01:03 PM
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Roof continued

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1363689 Sat Jun 06 2020 01:04 PM
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A couple more

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1363830 Sun Jun 07 2020 02:57 PM
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Looks good. Inspiring me to tackle the same repair on mine.

How hard was it to keep everything lined up?

Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1363955 Mon Jun 08 2020 05:49 AM
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Doing the floors, I just kept a jack under the pillar to keep it close to where it should be, because I still had the floor support bolt holes to locate it with. But I also took a measurement from a door hinge to the bottom of the rocker to make sure it went back in the same place. Also hung the door before welding the rocker up to verify the gappage. Everything seemed to by fine with the cab roof, but I thought that it had sprung when I sighted down each side of the cab (front to back, lining up the front pillar to the back side of the cab) to compare them. I saw that the drivers' side pillar was at a different angle and seemed to be out a t the top, so I put a come-a-long on it and pulled it in until both sides looked even. Got the patches put in and was putting the roof skin on and had to shave the drivers side front corner to make it fit; so it had always been that way and not sprung after all... Which is fine, I know that when this is done mine will be the most critical eye and if I had seen that pillar at a different angle then, it would drive me nuts. I also put the old windshield back up to it to verify that it wasn't too drastically different. I think I remember, during disassembly, that that corner didn't fit the glass too well.

Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1364122 Tue Jun 09 2020 12:07 PM
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Tackled the cab corner, something, sometime, hit the door and moved along to the corner and tried to fold it on over. I got a patch panel for it and briefly had fantasies about seeing if I could straighten out the rest. My limitations were quickly shown to me and I ended up making the little patch above and also another at the back side.Pretty happy with how it turned out. It's so nice to not see all those wrinkles....

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Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1364492 Thu Jun 11 2020 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bsarts
A couple more
I need to get you to do that to my roof


'66 c10 rust bucket, 350 nv4500 stock bellhousing, '85 c30 front suspension, h072 rear axle with 3/4 ton rear coil springs
'67 cj5 225 oddfire motor, time for disc brake conversion, offset rear dana 44, intermediate pedals and steering upgrade
'48 3804 frame and bed + '52 6400 cab and front clip + 4bt, need to put them together
Re: 62 K20
bsarts #1364553 Fri Jun 12 2020 03:58 AM
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A little heads up to anyone doing the roof job... When I had it off, I went over it pretty good with a hammer and dolly taking out dents and such, so when I got the skin put back on and welded up ,I was quite disappointed to see some rather large dents along the back edge. Silly me just went ahead and started trying to pull them out with the stud welder and saw that that wasn't gonna cut it. Then I realized that, when I was cutting the spot welds during removal, sometimes the cutter got too close to the wall that is roof side of the drip rail groove and cut into it. Then when welding it up, the weld shrinkage pulling on the bottom of that small vertical wall put those big dents up top. Fortunately, some gentle beating on the top corner of the roof back there above the offending weld plannished them back out, except of course for the one that I tried the stud welder on....

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