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AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
#1312703 Fri May 31 2019 09:24 PM
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I have a 1954 Chevy Suburban that I've just acquired. Unfortunately, the interior is missing a few things.

I've found some boat window pulls but the latches I understand are different between the splitters and the catfish trucks. Jim Carter has:

1947-Mid 1952 Suburban slide window lock Stainless Spring Steel Chevrolet and GMC Pickup Truck
Item Number: WI486
Retail: $34.50 PAIR

Will these work but only be aesthetically different or does anyone know if holes are different? I have NOTHING to go on and have only managed to find one picture of them and that was through Tim's page on his blue burb.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Dan Bowles #1312704 Fri May 31 2019 09:29 PM
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Message sent to Jim Carter's info email addy. We'll see what they say as well.


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Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Dan Bowles #1312719 Fri May 31 2019 11:58 PM
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The original stainless window pulls span the entire glass from top to bottom & each one has a tab on it that interlocks with the spring lock on the body. { 2 lefts & 2 rights }.

As far as I know the marine pulls are only about 3" long ... Link to pulls

If you use the replacement marine pulls, there will be no provision to lock the glass to the tabs on the body no matter which ones you use.



You might be able to buy a couple more of the marine tabs & create a locking tab for the bottom of each glass.


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Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Mother.Trucker #1312751 Sat Jun 01 2019 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother.Trucker
The original stainless window pulls span the entire glass from top to bottom & each one has a tab on it that interlocks with the spring lock on the body. { 2 lefts & 2 rights }.



Thanks. That's the first I've seen of them so didn't know what the bottoms looked like. I have the pieces that are on the outside glass but not the inside.I'll get a look at them. Do you sell these? What is their typical price? Is there a difference between the years that you are aware of?


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Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Mother.Trucker #1312755 Sat Jun 01 2019 12:52 PM
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Looking at Tim's photo:
[img]http://www.1954advance-design.com/5...es/slides/Maureen%20in%20the%20dark.html[/img]

It looks like the pull is only the few inches and the long pieces are on the outside. The spring stop looks like it could activate on the glass edge.


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Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Dan Bowles #1312757 Sat Jun 01 2019 12:59 PM
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The rear side-window pulls changed (maybe in 1953) to the "short" style that I have on my 1954 (they are original).

There are different widow "tab locks" than shown by MT for an earlier Suburban. You can see a tab-lock near the bottom-middle of the window opening in that picture of Maureen at my Suburban's "coming out" (from a nine-year restoration) 50th birthday party on the 4th of July 2004. We had a grand time at that party.

I'll see if I can find the listing in the Master Parts Book, if anyone is interested (and/or if you are not able to access an online or hardcopy Master parts Catalog). Chasing down Suburban parts in a MPB is sometimes interesting/challenging. If you find the listing on-line, please post the link.

[The Suburban sliding side window "catch" changed in 1952. Do you want part numbers for both styles?]

Last edited by tclederman; Sat Jun 01 2019 01:42 PM. Reason: added side window catch information at bottom

Tim
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1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
tclederman #1312771 Sat Jun 01 2019 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tclederman
The rear side-window pulls changed (maybe in 1953) to the "short" style that I have on my 1954 (they are original).


My '53 burb has the long pulls so, it looks like they went to the short pulls in 1954.

I have always wondered why some of the locking tabs I have seen have a hard plastic/rubber coating on them & now I know why.

When they eliminated the long pulls they had to insulate the locking tab from bare metal contacting the glass & the plastic/rubber coating was added to the tabs.


Original factory photo does confirm that the short pulls were used in 1954.

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Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Dan Bowles #1312776 Sat Jun 01 2019 03:51 PM
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See catch and handle in 19.136

I might be incorrectly reading/translating these parts.

And/or, maybe factories used up old parts before moving on the new parts?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Dan Bowles #1312804 Sat Jun 01 2019 07:18 PM
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More pics of long pulls.

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Re: AD Suburban Window Latch Questions
Dan Bowles #1313068 Tue Jun 04 2019 12:52 AM
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I'm glad you guys have the photos of the long pulls. If you have pictures of the latches for these, please post as well. It is hard enough to find them as it is so having them all in one post would be great.

I'm really interested in what I need for the 54 as far as the latches go. I'll live with the marine pulls that MT posted but I don't know what changed that would keep me from using the parts Jim Carter has listed in one of my earlier posts. It could be that there is a coating added as MT says. I'm not averse to plasti-dip if that's really all I need! I don't want to do a $40 experiment to find out I can't use the ones listed. I'll pull a surround off one of my windows in the next few days to see if I can see the bolt pattern. Maybe MT or someone else can tell me if that looks remotely similar to the older trucks. I'm not sure why it is listed as a mid-1952 part. Something obviously changed for late 52-53 but if MT still has long pulls for 53 still it isn't because the pulls changed!

Thanks for all the detective work so far, guys!


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