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Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1311783 Fri May 24 2019 12:50 PM
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Are you sure it is a 207? There are some visuals that are off, valve covers are usually smooth. Coils also mount to firewall since early head is not drilled for bracket. May be worth pulling head and block casting numbers to have experts here confirm.

Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1311793 Fri May 24 2019 02:30 PM
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I would be cautious with this one as excessive money has been paid for straight sheet metal and good paint. It is a 216 but the missing flywheel cover and battery blocked into place are signs of "get it running" and not pride in ones work. Interior, bed, and 3/4 side pics would help. Ones that have sat for a long period are often more expensive to get road ready than ones not so pretty that are used up to the restore date. It IS a good start project but just be aware that presently one costs triple compared to the same twenty years ago. We used to turn one out for 10k that now runs 30k and WE make the exact same profit on both but the suppliers are driving Porsche's and sailing big boats.


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Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1311817 Fri May 24 2019 05:36 PM
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Yes, this is a 1936 only 206/207 engine...casting number is 836010. The 216 was introduced in 1937.

The 206 Valve Cover was smooth, not ribbed in '36, so it's wrong.

The 206 did have the coil mounted between plugs 3 and 4.

Mike B smile

Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1311846 Fri May 24 2019 10:46 PM
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I have no idea if it's a 207, I only said that since I assumed it was original but lot happens in 70+ years. I don't doubt you're all correct and it's that 216 instead, I don't have much history on the truck so I will definitely swing by and try to find some head/block numbers on there. That sort of lowered the price if the block isn't original either (at least in my mind).

keep the great info coming, this research and learning is half the fun of a new project. smile

Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1311873 Sat May 25 2019 02:37 AM
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You may just have a 1936 207 engine. The 207's had the dip stick, draft tube/oil filler on the left side of the engine, toward the front. 1937-39 216's had the dip stick, draft tube/oil filler on the right side of the engine toward the front, to the right of the distributor. I'm not positive, but from 1940 on the 216, 235's had the dip stick to the left of the distributor. Your distributor looks to be correct for a 1936 207 with vacuum advance. Some of those early distributors had manual advance on the distributor, using a cable from inside the cab. Your foot stomper assembly for the starter also looks correct for a 1936.

Rick

Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1311874 Sat May 25 2019 02:47 AM
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Look at your passenger side engine picture and you'll see the casting number on the block '836010' and the date code of L 30 5 (Dec 30, 1935)...it's the correct 206 engine...NOT a 216...the 216 T-stat housing bolts to the front of the head where the 206 bolts on top. If I had a better picture of the engine I bet the first two numbers in it's serial number are "56"...

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Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1311910 Sat May 25 2019 03:43 PM
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Stael it for $4k !

Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1312564 Fri May 31 2019 01:21 AM
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Where exactly is the truck located? That dictates my price also. I like it tho. Get a price together on it and post it. Im always slow to see good deals and my arms get to short for the depths of my pockets when they do come around. lol. But you never know. Timing is everything. Its only worth what someone is willing to pay.... Post it if it dont sell, your asking to much.

Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1314251 Fri Jun 14 2019 02:04 AM
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zracTA Offline OP
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So I checked the code on the block, it says K590I4II , I'll start digging into what that can mean smile although that is a number someone stamped into the block, it might not be the casting number... the stamping letters are rather crooked there. I'll keep digging and try to find some more numbers on there.

Where would someone find a crank replacement in lets say a 206? are these things still available or by some miracle made by aftermarket?

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Re: Please help me figure out what offer to make on this truck - 1936 [Re: zracTA] #1314554 Mon Jun 17 2019 12:23 AM
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Mike B Offline
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Originally Posted by zracTA
So I checked the code on the block, it says K590I4II , I'll start digging into what that can mean smile although that is a number someone stamped into the block, it might not be the casting number... the stamping letters are rather crooked there. I'll keep digging and try to find some more numbers on there.

Where would someone find a crank replacement in lets say a 206? are these things still available or by some miracle made by aftermarket?


Engine Serial number K590I4II is a good number for a Commercial (1/2 ton) 1936 206.

'K' Prefix = Commercial
5901411 = unit number starting with 5500179 and ending with 6784512.

You engine was built in January 1936.

Your Block casting number will be 836010. Your head will be casting number should be 837981.

Cranks and Cams for the 206 haven't been made for over 60 years, you need to post 'wanted' ads everywhere you can on the web and keep an eye on eBay and CL, and hope you get lucky! The p/n for the Crank is 837630 and it's Forge Number is 837631.

Mike B smile

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