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Re: Engine swap success/ fail (235 replacing 216 in '53 3600) [Re: Tyler Watts] #1311244
Mon May 20 2019 12:40 PM
Mon May 20 2019 12:40 PM
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Hotrod Lincoln  Offline
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Dellrose, TN
That's a passenger car bellhousing for a 216. Apparently someone had the 235 in an earlier chassis before you got it.
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Re: Engine swap success/ fail (235 replacing 216 in '53 3600) [Re: Tyler Watts] #1311249
Mon May 20 2019 01:23 PM
Mon May 20 2019 01:23 PM
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MikeE  Offline
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De Pere, WI
I seem to remember playing this game when I put an SM 420 into my 46 Panel truck. One of your bell housings is probably for the original non synchro 4 speed. When you switch everything around to get the SM 420 to match the bell housing, you may need to check that the starter and flywheel work together and that the clutch and brake pedal assembly still bolt up to the right places. This may not be an issue for you, but I had to fight that battle with a modified bell housing. Think it was something between 46 and 47 body styles.


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Re: Engine swap success/ fail (235 replacing 216 in '53 3600) [Re: MikeE] #1311357
Tue May 21 2019 03:38 AM
Tue May 21 2019 03:38 AM
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Tyler Watts  Offline OP
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Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 71
Big Rapids, MI
Mike,
I got everything back together. I just put my original 216 bellhousing on the 235. I do happen to have an older 4 speed (pre-SM420, don't recall the model # off the top of my head) laying around, so I'll check for curiosity's sake to see if it matches up to that bellhousing.


1953 Chevrolet 3/4-Ton 3600 Pickup
1946 Fleetline Aerosedan
Re: Engine swap success/ fail (235 replacing 216 in '53 3600) [Re: Tyler Watts] #1311390
Tue May 21 2019 02:12 PM
Tue May 21 2019 02:12 PM
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MikeE  Offline
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De Pere, WI
The older 4 speed, the one with the lever for reverse, doesn't match up with the SM 420 bolt pattern. But the old bell housing will will bolt to a 235. So the front is compatible but the back isn't. I am not sure if there was another 4-speed between the reverse lock out model and an SM 420, I don't think so but I am not too familiar with the transmission development process.


1946 1-ton Panel
1952 1-ton Comml. W/Grain Body
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Re: Engine swap success/ fail (235 replacing 216 in '53 3600) [Re: MikeE] #1311470
Wed May 22 2019 02:34 AM
Wed May 22 2019 02:34 AM
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Tyler Watts  Offline OP
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Big Rapids, MI
Mike,

Right you are--I held up my earlier 40's 4-speed (the one with the lock-out reverse as you noted) and yep, it's a match for the bellhousing I initially had on the 235. The p.o. of this engine must have had it in an earlier truck with that 4 speed. From what I've read, that trans went up to '47, and then the SM 420 came out in '48, if I remember correctly.


1953 Chevrolet 3/4-Ton 3600 Pickup
1946 Fleetline Aerosedan
Re: Engine swap success/ fail (235 replacing 216 in '53 3600) [Re: Tyler Watts] #1311493
Wed May 22 2019 01:33 PM
Wed May 22 2019 01:33 PM
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