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NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? #1307700
Fri Apr 19 2019 01:33 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 01:33 PM
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Jon G  Online OP
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Posts: 938
Dallas, TX
It depends on how literal your definition parameters are. However this is as close as you may get and I'm positive it is as close as you'll get for this kind of $$. Let me first tell you what happened here because to my way of thinking it is strangely interesting. I had to put on my detective hat once again. I bought what was represented as a NOS 965s. In truth only the air horn and throttle body were NOS. Evidently in some auto parts store or some dealer's parts counter a person needed a 965s float bowl, so they scavenged this one and replaced it with a bowl for a manual choke model. The seller didn't notice the problem, but this had created a mongrel...a carburetor which could not then be sold without one serious problem: there was no vacuum port for the auto choke feature and the mis-matched top and bottom would leak gas whenever you drove around a corner. The bakelite choke cover had also been removed, but I had one of those here and time doesn't affect those much. Unable to find a float bowl for the 965s, I bought another 965s described solely as a parts carburetor. When it arrived yesterday morning and I started disassembling it, I could tell this carburetor had spent long years in a box and at some point either the box had gotten wet or the owner lived in a very humid area...maybe Houston, New Orleans, Miami or somewhere like that. There was that whitish rash that occurs when this happens--that is to say when these wick moisture onto the surface (normally when they're in a box or wrapped in paper it seems to be worse). But when I separated the air horn from the float bowl I wasn't at all prepared to see what I saw: I had acquired another NOS 965s. That's right. Coincidence of coincidences the insides showed it had never been used. Not even once. I'll show you some images shortly. So with the understanding I had two of these...one with a rash and the other nicer looking, I made the decision to combine the two using the nicest parts from both. I'll continue to watch for a float bowl for a 965s so the remaining parts can be rescued, but for now let's talk about what I have to offer. Please remember the 965s was designed for the 216 truck with standard transmission. Years 1937 to 1952.

Here's what you'll get:

An unused 965s as it came from the factory but with a new accelerator diaphragm and gaskets...the original gaskets were hard, brittle and looked somewhat shrunken.
The original choke to manifold connection tube complete with the asbestos insulation. Still nice and white, too.
The original Carter box. Very shopworn but still here.
The original Carter documents which were folded and tattered inside the box.
Is it all perfect now? Well no...as Jon (CarbKing) will tell you this white rash is sinister and can be impossible to completely remove. It causes tiny divots in the finish. Some of these carburetors which have sat as shelf items for decades can require more care and work than one which has been used. If you wanted to, I suspect you could disassemble this and send it off to be replated but I would simply be happy with it as it is. In fact if I had a 216 I'd be tickled pink I'd found one in this condition. I've cleaned the entire carburetor as carefully as possible, freed up any sticking part and I believe it is as close to new as I'll probably find. Here is a bonus for the thinking person: the part of the float bowl with the damage will face the rocker arm cover. That's right...it may not be seen that often depending on the size and type of your air filter. What's the price? $240 plus shipping. Let's take a look inside first. There will be a follow-up post with other images of the outside.

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965s inside venturi.JPG (165 downloads)

Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1307702
Fri Apr 19 2019 01:35 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 01:35 PM
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Jon G  Online OP
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Posts: 938
Dallas, TX
And a look at the outside. If questions, please contact me.

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IMG_8988.JPG (165 downloads)
IMG_8989.JPG (165 downloads)

Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1307703
Fri Apr 19 2019 01:37 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 01:37 PM
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Jon G  Online OP
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Posts: 938
Dallas, TX
I should mention (because I'm certain there will be questions), the carb tag had been on the outside corner when I got it and apparently had been caught in either the box or some wrapping paper in the past and bent to the point of splitting. I've moved it back where it will be out of the way.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1307710
Fri Apr 19 2019 02:18 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 02:18 PM
Justhorsenround  Online
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El Reno, Okla
Price please.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1307712
Fri Apr 19 2019 02:34 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 02:34 PM
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Jon G  Online OP
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Dallas, TX
Please see last text line in the first post, Martin.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1307720
Fri Apr 19 2019 03:20 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 03:20 PM
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Jon G  Online OP
Shop Shark
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Dallas, TX
You'll also get a proper and new manifold gasket.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1307728
Fri Apr 19 2019 03:41 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 03:41 PM
Justhorsenround  Online
Grease Monkey
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,269
El Reno, Okla
Must be going blind. I read your entire post 3 times and overlooked it. Sorry.


Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)


"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line" and lock up those on the wrong side of that line.

Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1307735
Fri Apr 19 2019 04:11 PM
Fri Apr 19 2019 04:11 PM
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Jon G  Online OP
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Posts: 938
Dallas, TX
Not a problem at all, Martin. I do that kind of stuff daily. Attached is an image of the manifold gasket for this carburetor. It is a bit thicker and has sort of a rubberized feel.

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MVC-909F.JPG (143 downloads)

Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1311373
Tue May 21 2019 11:47 AM
Tue May 21 2019 11:47 AM
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Brovelli  Offline
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Florida
Still for sale? Needing a carb for my 51’ 3100 with a 216. Done fighting with my Rochester.

Re: NOS Carter 965s for Chevy 216? [Re: Jon G] #1311476
Wed May 22 2019 03:07 AM
Wed May 22 2019 03:07 AM
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Jon G  Online OP
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Posts: 938
Dallas, TX
Yes, it is still here. My email address is jon_goodman@yahoo.com if you want to send a message.


Jon

1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
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